Krangodnzr
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It's what the offensive formation dictates.
Simmons is a safety, not a linebacker
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Why? He's still switching him to the weak side then? He's always had his success from the strong side yet Vance keeps switching him and occasionally dropping him. I can't think of a worse use of his talent.
Chopper0080
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Ugh...I don't know why I read the Simmons threads everyday. They just make me pissed off and sad.
We can never have nice things.
Bkbobo
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It feels that way sometimes. Riding high 2-0 and the Cards laid an egg.
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You can you just have to look for the silver lining.
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Simmons was a 3 year starter in major conference and played in 5 CFB playoff games including two national championships vs NFL QB’s. He needs to be in there bottom line.
Chopper0080
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This thread should be titled Vanilla Vance Joseph is a clown, not a DC.
Only 10 snaps for Simmons today. I just don’t understand the coddling with this kid. The Panthers are starting a rookie ( Jeremy Chin ) who is similar to Simmons as a player, and no problem, the kid is on the field. Yet Simmons doesn’t . It’s one or two things 1) VJ can’t figure out how to get him on the field 2) Simmons is just not picking up the defense contrary to front office speak. It’s a mystery
SoonerLou
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Or...he's just not that good yet.
You draft him as a LB.
You have him train this offseason as a LB (he looks heavier)
You realize in camp...he's not a LB.
So either you wait it out and hope he gets good at.
Or use him at safety and hope thats the position for him.
Problem with all those snaps all over the field at Clemson means he didnt hone his craft at one position.
Cards may have guessed wrong about him being a LB and instead should have developed him at S.
Probably is I'm not sure you can play him and Budda together.
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Does he really?
SoonerLou
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In college he looked more like Julio Jones in terms of size.
Maybe 230 in college
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Something else that list him at 230 (back in January)
https://www.si.com/nfl/giants/draft/draft-prospect-preview-lb-isaiah-simmons-clemson
Close to 240 at the combine
Looks about 245 to me right now.
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Fans are going to debate Simmons like Reddick. Four years later [emoji1787] we will be wondering where the time went when Simmons gives up a 76 yard touchdown to another faceless RB in game 1.
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Krangodnzr
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He's just so bad. I watch this defense, and if you threw in 3 more Pro Bowlers, I'm not convinced it would be good.
Krangodnzr
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Over and over, teams just scheme openings against Vance. It just works over and over. It's maddening.
I think Vance Joseph understands defense and is a good teacher, but I think he is awful at the intricacies of play calling.
I think Vance Joseph understands defense and is a good teacher, but I think he is awful at the intricacies of play calling.
Surprise, surprise...Simmons ended up getting 10 snaps again. Shocker.
They had him playing a lot of DB on Saturday. However that doesn’t mean he is a safety though. I expect to see him moved all over as that is what makes him special.
I covered this one page 1 of this thread. This sounds great in theory. Players have done it before, but they always had a base position. Say Honey Badger for example, would play most snaps at safety, but would also play some slot, a little corner, maybe some LB etc but he was a safety.
I don;t think any player has ever had an NFL career just being a gadget defender without a base position. So is that now safety or LB?
He is listed as an ILB on the official roster currently so I guess that currently is his base position???
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VJ said he's a "star LB'er" yesterday.
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Cardinals' Vance Joseph gives Isaiah Simmons new position: 'star backer'
It's the question that's been asked ever since the Cardinals drafted him No. 8 overall in 2020: What position will Isaiah Simmons play?
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resurrect a dead thread just to stroke yourself??
come on man
we all know simmons is a tall safety,...
you put it out there like you were the only one
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Meaning VJ has changed the base scheme to a 4-2-5 to accommodate what Keim has drafted. Except we don't have a single interior DL worth mentioning. Could be a disaster. Teams will run free up the middle once again.
