So, how good is this team going to be?

[Bufalay]

Congratulations Robert Sarver

 

[Chaplin]

Congratulations Robert Sarver

I bet you didn't congratulate him when we went to the Western Conference Finals, though, right?

 

[Mainstreet]

The way I see it, the Suns are immediately improved at the PF and Center position with the addition of Scola. IMO, SF is no worse than a wash as Hill finished the season injured. I really do not see much change at SG except Michael Redd will likely not return. So that leaves the PG position. The Suns should have better depth there, but how much do the Suns lose with Dragic starting instead of Nash? This is an unknown. The Suns could crash and burn if Dragic does not perform well or overachieve if he plays well. I guess 35 wins sounds about right not knowing how Dragic will perform. It could be better or much, much worse.

I was overly optimistic predicting 35 wins and Dragic lived up to my expectations. IMO, there is no doubt he is the best player on the Suns team which says something.

The Suns lack of defense and a player that can create his own shot (who can shoot for percentage) really took it's toll. I'm most discouraged by the Suns terrible defense.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I bet you didn't congratulate him when we went to the Western Conference Finals, though, right?

I could understand congratulating him
On winning the Western Conference Finals, but does winning two rounds of the playoffs really warrant "congrats"? Usually that's reserved for an actual accomplishment... At least IMO

 

[95pro]

We could have won more games so the final suns record doesn't really reflect how good people are at predicting the suns record. It became apparent that we were tanking once Gentry was canned.

But it did prove that Gortat was over estimated and just reconfirmed that Beasley is terrible. The bright side is that it showed Dragic is legit and we have tucker to replace Dudley.

Tucker is so much more athletic than Dudley that I would move Dudley.

 

[Phrazbit]

We could have won more games so the final suns record doesn't really reflect how good people are at predicting the suns record. It became apparent that we were tanking once Gentry was canned.

But it did prove that Gortat was over estimated and just reconfirmed that Beasley is terrible. The bright side is that it showed Dragic is legit and we have tucker to replace Dudley.

Tucker is so much more athletic than Dudley that I would move Dudley.

They were not tanking until they benched Dragic for no reason, their winning % at that point was slightly higher than it was under Gentry. This team is legitimately awful, and most terrible teams roll over towards the end of the year, I think most people that had the Suns posting a terrible record probably took into account that they'd close out mailing it in.

 

[Superbone]

The bright side is that it showed Dragic is legit and we have tucker to replace Dudley.

Tucker is so much more athletic than Dudley that I would move Dudley.

I don't know that I'd be ready to do that Dudley is a MUCH better shooter.

 

[Chaplin]

I could understand congratulating him
On winning the Western Conference Finals, but does winning two rounds of the playoffs really warrant "congrats"? Usually that's reserved for an actual accomplishment... At least IMO

For this franchise and its history, I'd say that's successful. Not the ultimate goal, at least, but still successful. You don't think getting to the West Finals is an actual accomplishment?

 

[Phrazbit]

For this franchise and its history, I'd say that's successful. Not the ultimate goal, at least, but still successful. You don't think getting to the West Finals is an actual accomplishment?

I dont think its totally hopeless under Sarver as some do (however he is a handicap), but he deserves little to no credit for the WCF runs. His idiotic handling of the front office is what has put the team in its pathetic state, he drove out the people who put together those successful teams and is not extending the incompetent boobs who put together this miserable product.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I bet you didn't congratulate him when we went to the Western Conference Finals, though, right?

lol still?

More things change more they stay the same.

Burn Robert Sarver in effigie. Dude is worse then Bill Bidwill as he has an ego and is pompous and is just as ineffective.

Clown. Worst thing that ever happened to this franchise.

 

[sunsfan88]

We could have won more games so the final suns record doesn't really reflect how good people are at predicting the suns record. It became apparent that we were tanking once Gentry was canned.

But it did prove that Gortat was over estimated and just reconfirmed that Beasley is terrible. The bright side is that it showed Dragic is legit and we have tucker to replace Dudley.

Tucker is so much more athletic than Dudley that I would move Dudley.

Tucker just needs to learn to shoot like Dudley now.

And yea agreed about everything else. I think the team (along with me) was counting on Beasley to become the superstar he was projected to be when coming out of the draft. When that flopped and when Gortat turned into a softie, the team finally decided to do what it should have done 2 years ago...tanking.

 

[HooverDam]

the Suns may be one of the top 5 worst teams in the NBA this year

Nailed it.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Nailed it.

I nailed it too. I said I had no clue how they'd do and I was right, I had no clue.

I think I picked them for 16 wins in one thread and 48 wins in another. I never seriously expected them to be this bad though. I thought if Beasley could earn his paycheck we'd be in the running for a playoff spot.

Steve

 

[SirStefan32]

I nailed it too. I said I had no clue how they'd do and I was right, I had no clue.

I think I picked them for 16 wins in one thread and 48 wins in another. I never seriously expected them to be this bad though. I thought if Beasley could earn his paycheck we'd be in the running for a playoff spot.

Steve

I knew that Beasley was terrible defensively, but I really thought he'd be better on offense. Not having that one guy who can create his own shot really hurt more than anything else. Not having that perimeter scorer puts more pressure on Dragic, it doesn't give "D and three" guys like Dudley and even Tucker as many open shots. Don't get me wrong, Gortat has been a huge disappointment, and even Scola to some degree, but the lack of that go-to scorer is why we are as bad as we are.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I knew that Beasley was terrible defensively, but I really thought he'd be better on offense. Not having that one guy who can create his own shot really hurt more than anything else. Not having that perimeter scorer puts more pressure on Dragic, it doesn't give "D and three" guys like Dudley and even Tucker as many open shots. Don't get me wrong, Gortat has been a huge disappointment, and even Scola to some degree, but the lack of that go-to scorer is why we are as bad as we are.

Agreed. And I think everyone on the team got a little worse when they fully realized it.

Steve

 

[TJ]

Thought I made my prediction in this thread. Ohh well....this team is flat out awful. Just a group of players with no clearly defined roles on offense or defense playing a rec-league game. Hunter is a garbage coach. Hope he isn't retained next season

 

[95pro]

Thought I made my prediction in this thread. Ohh well....this team is flat out awful. Just a group of players with no clearly defined roles on offense or defense playing a rec-league game. Hunter is a garbage coach. Hope he isn't retained next season

problem is that there are a lot of redundancies and lack of athleticism everywhere except Dragic and Gortat. You could say Brown too, but he's terrible anyway.