So much for a championship

[Lorenzo]

how good is a team that doesn't even win 50 games? It's an okay playoff basketball team - nothing more, nothing less. we got to the WCF purely because of a cheduling quirk that had us avoiding both SA and Dallas, even though they both had better records than us and we barely made it there, even though we didn't play anyone who even scratched 50 wins. it was a great and memorable run, but not one (especially considering the turnover in key players) that really pertains to this club IMO.

either way you look at it. There is a difference when you play the clippers in the 2nd round when compared to having to play S.A. or dallas. The S.A. dallas series was so close you almost could argue a coin flip would be the fair way to decide the outcome. All but one of those games went down to the last posession. That should have been the WCF. This year the nba got it right.

 

[mjb21aztd]

if you think this board has a lot of critics jay dont go to the espn board espically the cardinals one theirs like 4 cowboy fans posting their claiming to be the leader of the board lol atleast these boards gets rid of trolls quickly

 

[ma_falaa_50]

you all have ggod points but the suns are the only team (dallas, san antonio, phx) that has gotten worse since the all star break.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

He played in the 1999-2000 Finals (Lakers vs. Pacers). It appears Jalen had 2 30 point games and another 20+ point game.

http://www.nba.com/history/finals/19992000.html

Edit: He actually averaged 23 ppg for the series.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2000.html

huh, i had completely forgotten about his role in that series. where the hell had i read that he hadn't been in the playoffs? maybe it was since that series and i just expanded it (not outside the realm of reason that my brain would do that). thanks for the info.

 

[TJ]

Suns are flat. Playing with no passion, no purpose. The only thing that these eternal optimist have to live for at this point is "hope" Realisticly there is little of that left. And dont begin to tell me that they can turn it on during the playoffs, because we also need momentum if we are even going to make it out of the first round. We peaked at the wrong time (during the middle of the season) and the Mavs and Spurs are peaking when it counts

 

[Lorenzo]

Suns are flat. Playing with no passion, no purpose. The only thing that these eternal optimist have to live for at this point is "hope" Realisticly there is little of that left. And dont begin to tell me that they can turn it on during the playoffs, because we also need momentum if we are even going to make it out of the first round. We peaked at the wrong time (during the middle of the season) and the Mavs and Spurs are peaking when it counts

I think the suns will be okay come playoff time. I don't think they will have a first round letdown at all. The struggle will be the spurs in the 2nd round. That will be the series that the suns can prove to the world that they have what it takes.

 

[arwillan]

Suns are flat. Playing with no passion, no purpose. The only thing that these eternal optimist have to live for at this point is "hope" Realisticly there is little of that left. And dont begin to tell me that they can turn it on during the playoffs, because we also need momentum if we are even going to make it out of the first round. We peaked at the wrong time (during the middle of the season) and the Mavs and Spurs are peaking when it counts

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amen to that.

 

[Ballamania]

i really wish it was guaranteed that the suns will "turn on a switch". we can only hope but we dont know that for sure. i mean its fine to root and hope for your team but its another thing to be completely blind to things that are going on or brush them off. be honest with yourself, would you be feeling the exact same optimism if this was the spurs or mavs playing like the suns? probably not. you would probably be saying that they look unchampionship like, inconsistent and vulnerable.

 

[arwillan]

i really wish it was guaranteed that the suns will "turn on a switch". we can only hope but we dont know that for sure. i mean its fine to root and hope for your team but its another thing to be completely blind to things that are going on or brush them off. be honest with yourself, would you be feeling the exact same optimism if this was the spurs or mavs playing like the suns? probably not. you would probably be saying that they look unchampionship like, inconsistent and vulnerable.

i think the hope for the suns to have a sincere shot at the title, and the hope for them to turn it on in the playoffs is blind and somewhat biased. If we were say, lakers fans, we would be saying "wow they have no chance and are not going anywhere in the postseason." but since most like to think that their team is the best team, they hold onto hope that they will come through.

 

[Lorenzo]

i think the hope for the suns to have a sincere shot at the title, and the hope for them to turn it on in the playoffs is blind and somewhat biased. If we were say, lakers fans, we would be saying "wow they have no chance and are not going anywhere in the postseason." but since most like to think that their team is the best team, they hold onto hope that they will come through.

and there is nothing wrong with that. I still think the suns will be a contender. They just have to give a much better effort in all aspects of the game. Amare shows flashes of being a great rebounder and defender. But they need him and others to committ to that consistently.

 

[arwillan]

and there is nothing wrong with that. I still think the suns will be a contender. They just have to give a much better effort in all aspects of the game. Amare shows flashes of being a great rebounder and defender. But they need him and others to committ to that consistently.

correct. we know that the suns CAN be great, they just need to play like it.

 

[BC867]

I am PO and as dissapointed as the next guy about our play lately but there is no reason to think the Suns can't get back into a grove.

"No reason to think the Suns can't get back into a groove."

Whenever I see a sentence trying to make a positive point by using two negatives, I have to wonder what the writer really believes.

It's taking a stand and hedging on it at the same time.

The way the Suns are running out of gas, it's understandable, though. It shows the lack of confidence many of us are feeling.

 

[Covert Rain]

Whenever I see a sentence trying to make a positive point by using two negatives, I have to wonder what the writer really believes.

WHAT?!?!?! Read into things much?

 

[BC867]

WHAT?!?!?! Read into things much?

Nothing personal SteelDog. But "There's reason to think the Suns can get back into a groove" or, even better, "Here's why I think the Suns will be the Best of the Best this post-season" are alot different than "There's no reason to think the Suns can't get back into a groove".

It's why the old "I don't see why not" is not a statement of confidence.

But then, I don't blame you for holding back. The Suns haven't earned anything more lately.

Many months ago, I posted how the Suns short rotations would leave them in a bind "during crunch time" and during the post-season.

I've been a Suns fan for 37 years. I want to see them take the final step. But they haven't, damnit.

 

[Phxchris1989]

Nobody thought we'd make it past the first round last year either, and hell I sure didn't after the Lakers went 3-1. But then nobody thought we'd beat the Clippers and we did, nobody thinks the Suns can do anything except Suns fans, sure as hell not ex-Suns San Antonio bandwagon jumpers have any faith in the team.

 

[CaptainInsano]

I myself as a suns fan was in the dumps about our performance lately, but from this last dallas blowout I think the only thing I should have doubted was the suns ability to be able to flip the switch.

Obviously the Suns, like Miami, have mastered the ability to coast through the last part of the season and flip on the switch only when needed.

Shame on me.

GO SUNS!

 

[TucsonDevil]

The Spurs and Mavs have shown they can counter the Suns' tempo and shooters. This is going to be a great summer for basketball. If we win it, there will be no doubt that the system works, and we were the best team.

But as far as the depression earlier... I feel much better today about our chances.

 

[SO91]

Well damn...there goes the championship!!

 

[TJ]

The Spurs and Mavs have shown they can counter the Suns' tempo and shooters. This is going to be a great summer for basketball. If we win it, there will be no doubt that the system works, and we were the best team.

But as far as the depression earlier... I feel much better today about our chances.

Naturally I do to...but it is going to be damn hard getting through both San Antonio and Dallas

 

[Lorenzo]

Naturally I do to...but it is going to be damn hard getting through both San Antonio and Dallas

the mavs were so close to being beat by the spurs last year. this year all 3 of our meetings have gone right down to the wire like those playoff games. The spurs are playing as well as any other right now. I'm glad it's the suns playing the spurs this year. I don't know if the mavs could make it thru both teams.

 

[BC867]

I myself as a suns fan was in the dumps about our performance lately, but from this last dallas blowout I think the only thing I should have doubted was the suns ability to be able to flip the switch.

Obviously the Suns, like Miami, have mastered the ability to coast through the last part of the season and flip on the switch only when needed.

Shame on me.

GO SUNS!

I just posted a similar message on the "The greatest thing about this win...." thread. 'Hope the Suns can pull it off.

 

[Covert Rain]

Nothing personal SteelDog. But "There's reason to think the Suns can get back into a groove" or, even better, "Here's why I think the Suns will be the Best of the Best this post-season" are alot different than "There's no reason to think the Suns can't get back into a groove".

It's why the old "I don't see why not" is not a statement of confidence.

But then, I don't blame you for holding back. The Suns haven't earned anything more lately.

Many months ago, I posted how the Suns short rotations would leave them in a bind "during crunch time" and during the post-season.

I've been a Suns fan for 37 years. I want to see them take the final step. But they haven't, damnit.

Again read into things much? Your tyring to tell me what I was thinking when I made the statement. I am not holding back or making underlying statements. You're making assumptions. I see no reason why the Suns shouldn't get back on track. Meaning I have confidence that they will. Thanks but I don't need someone to try and tell me what I was thinking. I think I know.