So tell me why the hell we keep this punter again?

[SoCal Cardfan]

Was it his booming kicks? or because he's Rackers BFF?

 

[arthurracoon]

*sigh*

 

[Spielman]

It's for his awesome throws on fakes.

Oh, wait.

 

[moklerman]

I'm ready to say goodbye to both of them. I've come to terms with Rackers being the most un-clutch kicker ever, but the fact that the team is forced to stick with a horrible punter/holder just to keep Rackers happy makes me very eager to dump both of their contracts.

When was the last time Rackers actually boomed a kickoff? Total waste to be spending the money for these guys to be very average.

 

[NeverSayDieFan]

Because Rackers has hit (15) in a row...

Do I/We like the situation? NO! BUT it is what it is. If you subtract (4) or (5) of those (3's) we're a .500 team. FG's are NOT ONLY game-winners but they're also HUGE momentum-shifters. As for the Future? I have no idea how to solve this. Rackers psyche' apparently is VERY fragile when it comes to having the right holder.

 

[az1965]

Players on a MUST RELEASE list this offseason:

- Dirk Johnson
- Eric Green
- Matt Ware

Anyone else?

 

[Buckybird]

When was the last time Rackers actually boomed a kickoff?

If I'm not mistaken Rackers had 3 touchbacks today.

 

[LVG]

I AM NOT A RACKER'S HUMPER - but he is doing OK as of lately.

Not sure what happened on the PAT hold. Why don't we have Leinart doing that again?

 

[TJ]

Players on a MUST RELEASE list this offseason:

- Dirk Johnson
- Eric Green
- Matt Ware

Anyone else?

Edjerrin James

 

[moklerman]

If I'm not mistaken Rackers had 3 touchbacks today.

They weren't the boomers that made him a real weapon. A couple of years ago his kicks were unreturnable. The stuff today they just chose not to bring it out.

 

[Buckybird]

They weren't the boomers that made him a real weapon. A couple of years ago his kicks were unreturnable. The stuff today they just chose not to bring it out.

come on man, a touchback is a touchback!!!

 

[redheat]

How in the hell do you overthrow one of the tallest guys on our team

 

[az1965]

How in the hell do you overthrow one of the tallest guys on our team

Also, it beats me why don't we have the #2 QB be the holder??? Much easier to execute fakes.

 

[D-Dogg]

terrible punter.

matt should be the holder, and if he had to throw he could actually, you know...throw.

 

[Shane]

terrible punter.

matt should be the holder, and if he had to throw he could actually, you know...throw.

No reason at all that he shouldnt be holding.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

No reason at all that he shouldnt be holding.

This is one of the stranger ideas that the team is married to. The punter has been the holder since one bar was here. The difference was that Player was a good holder.

Even after we got rid of Barr, we put the new punter in as holder rather than giving it to someone who Rackers was already familiar with. It's clearly not Racker's call or he would have gotten rid of Barr earlier last year.

It can't be Whisenhunt's idea since the concept predates him. That pretty much leaves Graves or higher up in management. Actually it is more likely that it is just one of those "Well that's the way we have always done it" things

 

[Totally_Red]

Players on a MUST RELEASE list this offseason:

- Dirk Johnson
- Eric Green
- Matt Ware

Anyone else?

Johnson and Green are almost totally worthless. Ware had a bad day.

Our lack of CB depth showed up big time on Sunday. Need to draft a young CB in the first three rounds.

 

[AZ Sports Native]

This is one of the stranger ideas that the team is married to. The punter has been the holder since one bar was here. The difference was that Player was a good holder.

Even after we got rid of Barr, we put the new punter in as holder rather than giving it to someone who Rackers was already familiar with. It's clearly not Racker's call or he would have gotten rid of Barr earlier last year.

It can't be Whisenhunt's idea since the concept predates him. That pretty much leaves Graves or higher up in management. Actually it is more likely that it is just one of those "Well that's the way we have always done it" things

Has anyone ever directly asked Coach Whiz why this has been the plan since he's been here? I just wonder what the thought process is to having the punter hold as opposed to the backup QB?

 

[SuperSpck]

Has anyone ever directly asked Coach Whiz why this has been the plan since he's been here? I just wonder what the thought process is to having the punter hold as opposed to the backup QB?

There's an "Ask the Coach" thing he does for the website. Spam him and find out.

I agree, that in the offseason if Warner's re-upped then the team takes a long look at Leinart as a holder. It makes sense.

But Rackers has been good this year. As bad as Johnson is, I wouldn't risk screwing up our K's mentality.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

There's an "Ask the Coach" thing he does for the website. Spam him and find out.

I agree, that in the offseason if Warner's re-upped then the team takes a long look at Leinart as a holder. It makes sense.

But Rackers has been good this year. As bad as Johnson is, I wouldn't risk screwing up our K's mentality.

Why the hell is everyone so worried about it screwing up Rackers mentally? What exactly is the difference between wide-left and a perfect snap left unkickable spinning on the ground?

 

[SuperSpck]

Why the hell is everyone so worried about it screwing up Rackers mentally? What exactly is the difference between wide-left and a perfect snap left unkickable spinning on the ground?

His confidence level. Kickers win games, for better or worse, so I'd rather Rackers believe he can make any kick and that screw ups are on the shoulders of anyone else. That ensures that he believes he can make any kick in any situation.

Right or wrong, it's been said that changing holders screws with him so let's not add to bad play by then having Neil start missing kicks to boot.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

His confidence level. Kickers win games, for better or worse, so I'd rather Rackers believe he can make any kick and that screw ups are on the shoulders of anyone else. That ensures that he believes he can make any kick in any situation.

Right or wrong, it's been said that changing holders screws with him so let's not add to bad play by then having Neil start missing kicks to boot.

I understand Racker's supposed fragile psyche, What I'm saying is.. If the holder can't take a perfect snap and place it, does anything else matter?

These botched extra points are pissing me off, I think they totally change the complexion of the game.
:safe:

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I understand Racker's supposed fragile psyche, What I'm saying is.. If the holder can't take a perfect snap and place it, does anything else matter?

These botched extra points are pissing me off, I think they totally change the complexion of the game.
:safe:

The "fragile psyche" thing is very over played. He didn't like one holder because the ball would spin when it was placed. That is it.

Everyone has a comfort level they work with. The offensive line thrives based on comfort and trust. Corner's trust safeties and that allows them to gamble. It's a team game.

 

[SuperSpck]

The "fragile psyche" thing is very over played. He didn't like one holder because the ball would spin when it was placed. That is it.

Everyone has a comfort level they work with. The offensive line thrives based on comfort and trust. Corner's trust safeties and that allows them to gamble. It's a team game.

Do you think it's something that the Cards need to address now, or should it keep?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Do you think it's something that the Cards need to address now, or should it keep?

I would like to think the special teams coach has a good handle on the situation. Ultimately our success or failure lies with them. Judging from our kick coverage, I am not inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.