That's not what this chart says. He's the fourth least-efficient passer in the league.Taking out garbage time Kyler has been the 4th worst QB in the league.
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I'll defend Kyler and say I don't think he can be elite by working on his mental preparation, because I believe he has been putting in all the mental preparation he can. Problem is, some QBs just will never have that elite processing speed. But I do think he is preparing as hard as he can.I am afraid we have seen all that KM can do. He is in his 6th year, and he still struggles reading defenses and finding the open receiver. He is unlikely to improve. He is an average QB who will occasionally have a great game. Would he be better with more talent on the OL and more experienced WR? Of course he would. However, he was the #1 draft pick, and he is making $40M a year. He should be making other players look good, not the other way around.
The frustrating part is I believe he could be an elite QB if he worked on his mental preparation of the game. He needs to know what receivers are open before the ball is snapped. He needs to know where the mismatches are. He needs to throw WR open instead of waiting for WR to get open and then throw the ball. All of this requires a lot of studying of game film. His deep ball was great when he was throwing to Hopkins. Now, not so good.
Unfortunately, it is very costly to release him, and I don't see a trade unless a GM completely losing his mind. Every year his next year's contract is guaranteed. His 2025 salary and roster bonus are already guaranteed, $40M. On March 22, 2025, $36M of his 2026 is guaranteed. On March 22, 2026, 19.5M of his 2027 salary is guaranteed. He is also due an option bonus of $7.2M in 2025, 2026 and 2027. Thank you, Steve Kiem.
Patrick Mahomes is #16 and Jordan Love is #17. We should call KC and offer to trade KM for Mahomes. We could possibly get a second-round draft pick to make the deal equal.#8 in QBR... above average and fringe elite. Exactly where he has been most his career. Needs a good roster to win a superbowl. We are far from a good roster.
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I honestly don't know why there is a "Kyler Murray appreciation" thread that's being kept alive to get people here banned for speaking the truth. It's a discussion board, a thread where a handful of people lie to themselves to feel better serves no purpose.
Is he below average? I’m not so sure. A career passer rating of 92 and little better than 2-1 int/TD ratio. Career YPA of 7.0
He is probably right in the average category IMO as opposed to below average. Or mediocre. Sure he has some games like that but overall I think that’s probably a little hyperbolic. And we all know I’m a Kyler critic. Just because I don’t think we are getting enough return on the teams investment. IE draft status and salary he commands.
I'll defend Kyler and say I don't think he can be elite by working on his mental preparation, because I believe he has been putting in all the mental preparation he can. Problem is, some QBs just will never have that elite processing speed. But I do think he is preparing as hard as he can.
Some will always run to the stat sheet. Its so much more than that.
Fringe elite? Now and his whole career? Certainly a fringe post.#8 in QBR... above average and fringe elite. Exactly where he has been most his career. Needs a good roster to win a superbowl. We are far from a good roster.
Any belief outside of the above few sentences is splitting hairs and understandably emotional convo after we got our butts whooped.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Give this man a prize.It's very apparent, and you have to ask, which teams usually build their offense around their running back? The answer in all examples I can think of, are ones that don't trust their QB to throw the ball.
I remember Warner saying after a passing play is called there were 3 options. As they broke the huddle he already knew who the ball was going to just glancing at the defense.Kyler was asked what it was like to lose Marvin Harrison, Jr. during the course of the game. He said, "I just continue to execute what Drew calls."
Just seemed to be a robotic answer and again he defers to the OC regarding plays.
Didn't strike me as how most franchise QBs would answer the question. He constantly makes it seem like he is powerless in this offense when coaches have publicly stated that he has the green light when it comes to deciding to run on any play or not, we have seen him change a play at the line of scrimmage, etc..
Whining?Publicly whining about being banned gets you banned again. 3 days this time.
Keep it up and see where it goes.
C’mon Brit, get off your alternate account.Whining?
Whining???
More like stating that he feels it inappropriate to ban people in a thread, regardless of it being an appreciation thread or not (the whole premise of not being able to counter opinions in a thread is ridiculous at face value anyhow) when they verbalize their disagreement with a stated opinion.
This is VERY heavy handed, and definitely not in the spirit of this board. Ban me or not, but this is a terrible moderator decision. Way overstepping, IMO.
The threat at the end of your post makes me question your ability to actually moderate. Feels like you're just doling out bans at your whim. A total power trip.
Hey everyone DVontel doesn't think it possible for anyone to ever agree with Brit. No way!C’mon Brit, get off your alternate account.
Whining?
Whining???
More like stating that he feels it inappropriate to ban people in a thread, regardless of it being an appreciation thread or not (the whole premise of not being able to counter opinions in a thread is ridiculous at face value anyhow) when they verbalize their disagreement with a stated opinion.
This is VERY heavy handed, and definitely not in the spirit of this board. Ban me or not, but this is a terrible moderator decision. Way overstepping, IMO.
The threat at the end of your post makes me question your ability to actually moderate. Feels like you're just doling out bans at your whim. A total power trip.
I feel this is a valid concern.Kyler was asked what it was like to lose Marvin Harrison, Jr. during the course of the game. He said, "I just continue to execute what Drew calls."
Just seemed to be a robotic answer and again he defers to the OC regarding plays.
Didn't strike me as how most franchise QBs would answer the question. He constantly makes it seem like he is powerless in this offense when coaches have publicly stated that he has the green light when it comes to deciding to run on any play or not, we have seen him change a play at the line of scrimmage, etc..
Kyler was asked what it was like to lose Marvin Harrison, Jr. during the course of the game. He said, "I just continue to execute what Drew calls."
Just seemed to be a robotic answer and again he defers to the OC regarding plays.
Didn't strike me as how most franchise QBs would answer the question. He constantly makes it seem like he is powerless in this offense when coaches have publicly stated that he has the green light when it comes to deciding to run on any play or not, we have seen him change a play at the line of scrimmage, etc..
TBF, Kyler is probably intending to say that no matter who gets hurt, you just have to continue to execute your offense. Next man up. It just is worded in a way that can be interpreted many different ways.