Yea but at the same time Gortat averaged what 15-10 the year before last Kevin Love averaged like 26-13 Brook Lopez was what 20-8 Josh Smith 17-8-2 so 14-9,14-8 isn't all that rare for a big with skills.
Gortat averaged 15/10 with Nash as his PG. Len won't have that luxury.
As for the others, those are big-time players. I doubt anyone is seriously expecting Len to get to the level of someone like Love or Josh Smith. As for BLopez, he hasn't averaged 7 rebounds in three seasons. What happened to him? Oh, that's right, foot problems.
And you forgot David Lee,Damarcus Cousins,Greg Monroe and Lamarcus Aldridge.
No I didn't. They didn't average 14/9/2.
So let's leave out the two blocks then( which is a skill he has and usually translate to the NBA) 14-9 14-8 guy isn't to far out of the question.
If you'll remember how routinely Stoudemire was ripped to shreds on this board for his "poor" rebounding, you'll know that there's a big difference between 8 and 9 rebounds per game, or between 9 and 10.
For a skilled 7 footer its really not hard to see Len scoring 14 a game and he can already rebound and Block shots now.
But his rebounding numbers at Maryland were poor, as has already been pointed out, and that was with him having a huge size advantage against his competition most of the time. He'll be up against bigger and stronger players in the NBA -- why would you expect his rebounding to improve?
Its pretty apparent that you must have not liked Len as a player coming out.
I watched his stuff on DraftExpress pretty carefully, but I didn't see him in games.
Because your overlooking his skill set.
Which is what, exactly? He's afraid of contact, prefers weird little soft jumpers to dunks, and has trouble creating space in the low post. It's not like I'm the only one who has noticed these problems.
Remember that the coaches that know him best didn't even consider him a top-three center in the conference.
I wanted McLemore but was fine with the Len pick because a 7 footer who can score out of the post is a much rarer player than McLemore will ever be.
I agree that Len may have been the best pick under the circumstances, but that doesn't mean that he projects to 14/9/2. Those are really ambitious numbers.
He easily has more upside than any player in the draft.
It's pretty hard for you to maintain any credibility when you make a sweeping statement like that.
And you kind of made my argument for me if Len get to that 14-9-2 level we have one of the better players in the league And he fell to 5.
You aren't making sense. You've already penciled him in for 14/9/2 and are using that to prove that he's a great prospect. I don't think he'll get to 14/9/2. I'm not making your argument for you at all.