Sportscenter: Ravens have contacted Cardinals to offer 1st and 3rd

[Totally_Red]

I agree with those who think the Cards do need to mortgage this year and the next at the expense of future years. The team is loaded with veteran players and the problems they are having with several of them relating to contracts shows how hard it is to keep things together.

We don't have a single position where we need a rookie. Not a single position where we have an aging veteran with only a year or two left without someone already on the roster to take his place other than the one OLB slot occupied by Okeafor and Haggens and we've got this draft plus FA and the draft in 2010 to replace them.

I think the Cards see that as well as indicated by the contract given to Warner.

We need to keep our veterans not acquire more draft picks for 2009. The time to win is now.

I couldn't agree more. I feel this division is going to be significantly more difficult to win in future years. I think San Francisco is going to be improved, maybe not so much in 2009, but in future years Mike Singletary will have that team playing hard. I think they are still a good quarterback (and the leader on offense that that entails) from being a playoff team in 2009. The Rams are at least a year away, although again, I see Spagnoulo getting the defense on track, and spending his high draft picks wisely to get that team competitive by 2010. I'm scared to death that Seattle is going to spend the 4th overall pick on Mark Sanchez and have him groomed this season and ready to take over in 2010.

Add it all up, and the Cardinals need to win in 2009 IMO. They may or may not be as dynamic in coming seasons with Matt Leinart at the helm. Phil Savage was on Kiper a couple weeks ago. He put Sanchez somewhere between Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart on the quarterback scale. If he's right, the Seahawks leapfrog the Cardinals in QB ability starting in 2011. Another reason to pull out all the stops to win NOW.

Ken Whisenhunt showed in 2009 that he wanted to win immediately by starting Kurt Warner over Matt Leinart. I just hope that mentality prevails again. Keep the freakin' offense together and just no to trading Anquan Boldin.

 

[Skkorpion]

This thread title is misleading, there is a lot of difference between the Ravens have contacted the Cardinals and the Ravens have offered a 1st and 3rd.

They could have called and said, "Hey Graves what do you want for Boldin"

Graves could have said, "a 1st a 3rd and player X"

At which point Baltimore said, "too steep not interested"

Thank you, Zeno. Timm, this is not the first time you have begun a thread with a misleading headline. The subject is news and worthy of a thread. Thanks for starting it.

But we just went off on a three page expansion of your topic before Zeno pointed out the misrepresentation.

 

[uofi1998]

Presumably knowing that the asking price is a first and a third

If Boldin is traded, he should go to an AFC team.

Under no circumstances should we even consider sending him to an NFC contender.

There have also been reports that the Jets are interested. If we can get the 17th pick from the Jets and keep Boldin away from an NFC rival, I would have trouble turning this down. The thought of adding Knowshon Moreno at 17 and Larry English or Darius Heyword Bay at 31 makes a whole lot of sense

A low 1st and 3rd just isn't enough. NO WAY.

Needs to be a mid-1st at worst.

I want Moreno. He is the one guy in this draft that you can add to the Cardinals offense that suddenly gives it a brand new difference maker that can offset the loss of Boldin. H-Bay at 31, and go OL and Defense the rest of the draft.

I like your idea.

 

[Goldfield]

The Colts have an amazing organization. Going into the 2006 season they had every first round draft pick dating back to 1996 still on the team with one exception. Edgerrin James who left that year for Arizona.

EDIT: That's the equivalent of the Cards having Simeon Rice, Tom Knight,Andre Wadsworth, David Boston, Leonard Davis, Wendall Bryant, Bryant Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Antrel Rolle, and Matt Leinart still on the team and starting in 2006.

I hate you for bringing up those memories.

I think I am going to throw up now.

 

[uofi1998]

I hate you for bringing up those memories.

I think I am going to throw up now.

Yeah... that's really mindblowing when you think about it.

As an Illinois alumnus, I wanted so badly for things to work out with Simeon Rice here in AZ... but instead it turned into a disaster.

 

[Duckjake]

I hate you for bringing up those memories.

I think I am going to throw up now.

Hold off on that. Look on the bright side. We still have our last 5 #1 picks on the team and all of them have started games for us, one is the best player at his position in the entire NFL. In early april of 2003 we only had two and only one of those was a football player.