Starving Beans should be a

[THESMEL]

Whiz Starved the bean for 2 years, 1-20 carry game in his first 2 years....
Playcaller needs punched in the mouth! Hard!

Beanie and Rwill need some love- and more carries


link
http://www.nfl.com/player/beaniewells/79661/gamelogs?season=2011


He did this on one leg!
Pick Analysis: Regarded by many as the most powerful tailback in college football, that title came with a hefty price for Wells during his three years at Ohio State. Even though he suffered from a rash of injuries - a left ankle sprain, a right wrist sprain and a thumb fracture in 2007; a right foot sprain, turf toe, a hamstring strain and a concussion in 2008 - he only missed three games while compiling enough rushing yardage to rank fourth on the school career record list.


I forgot about the knee twisting fumble and his return to the game- playing on one leg! I want to see him healthy with 27 + carries a game- that is what THESMEL wants.
link
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011112704/2011/REG12/cardinals@rams#menu=highlights&tab=recap
Peterson, Wells captivate as Cardinals edge Rams

ST. LOUIS -- Patrick Peterson tied the NFL record with his fourth punt return for a touchdown this season, Beanie Wells set a franchise mark with 228 yards rushing, and the Arizona Cardinals won their seventh in a row in St. Louis with a 23-20 victory Sunday over the Rams.
Wells averaged 8.4 yards per carry on a career day that included gains of 71 and 53 yards. The latter set up Jay Feely's go-ahead 22-yard field goal with 4:12 remaining. Rookie Sam Acho also had a career day on defense with two sacks and a fumble recovery for Arizona (4-7), which did enough to overcome another awful outing by John Skelton, who threw two interceptions.
<A href="http://www.nfl.com/players/brandonlloyd/profile?id=LLO154116">Brandon Lloyd's 16-yard touchdown catch from Sam Bradford tied it at 20 with 7:46 to go. Nick Miller had an 88-yard punt return in the first quarter for the Rams (2-9) only three days after he re-signed with the team

 

[52brandon]

record = broken

 

[Phrazbit]

Giving Beanie 27 carries a game will probably get him injured by halftime of week 2. That kind of workload is almost unheard of, especially for a guy that cant stay healthy on 12 runs per game.

I like Beanie, I hope he does well, but the main reason he has not been a consistent producer is his own durability.

 

[cardsfanmd]

thank god for the ignore button lol

 

[joeshmo]

First, no one carries the ball 20+ times a game anymore. Only two players did it last year, Jones Drew and Foster. To expect Wells to get the ball 20+ times is a expectation that will not be met, nor should it.

Two, we are feeding the Bean. 9th in the NFL in attempts per game. 18 attempts a game is a great average and is greatly being used. The problem lies in getting more carries to the 2nd and 3rd options, not with feeding the Bean more often.

 

[Southpaw]

Starving Beans?

 

[joeshmo]

Starving Beans?

Dont ask, I don't even know why I replied. I hate myself for doing it every time.

 

[Southpaw]

Dont ask, I don't even know why I replied. I hate myself for doing it every time.

 

[BigRedRage]

thank god for the ignore button lol

+1

 

[Vermont Maverick]

thank god for the ignore button lol

Ditto, but I have just enjoyed reading everyone's replies.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Yep. Lets do that and starve Fitz instead. That sounds like a plan.

 

[PortlandCardFan]

Dont ask, I don't even know why I replied. I hate myself for doing it every time.

Well played...

 

[Longcolts]

Dont ask, I don't even know why I replied. I hate myself for doing it every time.

Sometimes Joe we just can't help ourselves. Although that begs the question, is logic allowed on this site?

 

[Longcolts]

Looks like it's about time for a new mouse. I wish my finger could double tap a .45 as fast as this damn thing can double tap an emoticon! lol

 

[cardpa]

Sometimes reading Thesmel posts is like coming onto an accident scene, you don't want to look but you have to.

 

[Darkside]

Beanie was 8th or 9th in total carries last year (depending on where you go for stats). What more could anyone want? I love it when dudes throw out stats saying we passed it 100% of the time, and when you go check the running stats you realize we were top 10 in running attempts.

Look, being top 10 in rushing attempts is stellar (as far as I'm concerned). Beanie had a great year for him and for us last year. Don't understand the complaints. The only thing that held CHRIS FREAKING WELLS back last year were his own injuries. Without injuries he may even be top 5 in attempts last year. TOP 5!!!! Without injuries he probably rushes for 1500 yards.

However, I'm sure his injuries were also Whiz's fault for not "coaching him up" or making the right calls or perhaps simply because he didn't pad his ego and baby him enough. Give me a break. Beanie proved last year he is a man, a stud, who can play with injuries and play in pain.

The goal isn't to get him more carries, but less. He needs to share carries with Williams (assuming he's healthy enough to return in good form). You pretend to care about Beanie, then prolong his career by doling out his carries in CRUCIAL spots instead of giving it to him so many times in bad spots, that's the goal. I bet even Bean would agree with this. Give it to him after the D is worn down with his running, with Williams running, with TE's Heap and Hostler catching, with Fitz and Floyd catching. Then when he does run, with his power and frame, it'll be like running over softened gelatin.

Beanie is the type of back built for running out games. He didn't do that at all last year, because we had nobody else and our passing game sucked. But that's what he's built for. To get up on teams and just smash smash slobber-knock the D on their heels when we have a lead. None of the breaking outside crap (where he gets tripped by the ankles trying to make a play), more like when he went for the Cards rushing record and went right up the middle. That's what we need. And we get that, in games we're ahead, with 4 minutes left, and he's just grinding and grinding and pounding and our appreciation of Beanie will reach astronomical heights.

 

[Duckjake]

Beanie was 8th or 9th in total carries last year (depending on where you go for stats). What more could anyone want? I love it when dudes throw out stats saying we passed it 100% of the time, and when you go check the running stats you realize we were top 10 in running attempts.

Look, being top 10 in rushing attempts is stellar (as far as I'm concerned). Beanie had a great year for him and for us last year. Don't understand the complaints. The only thing that held CHRIS FREAKING WELLS back last year were his own injuries. Without injuries he may even be top 5 in attempts last year. TOP 5!!!! Without injuries he probably rushes for 1500 yards.

However, I'm sure his injuries were also Whiz's fault for not "coaching him up" or making the right calls or perhaps simply because he didn't pad his ego and baby him enough. Give me a break. Beanie proved last year he is a man, a stud, who can play with injuries and play in pain.

The goal isn't to get him more carries, but less. He needs to share carries with Williams (assuming he's healthy enough to return in good form). You pretend to care about Beanie, then prolong his career by doling out his carries in CRUCIAL spots instead of giving it to him so many times in bad spots, that's the goal. I bet even Bean would agree with this. Give it to him after the D is worn down with his running, with Williams running, with TE's Heap and Hostler catching, with Fitz and Floyd catching.

But the Cardinals as a team were 28th in rushing attempts. I don't think Wells needs less carries but you are right about RWilliams. He needs to get more carries than what our other running backs had last season combined.

250 plus 150 should do the trick.

And just for fun: The SB Champion NYGiants were 22nd in rushing attempts last season and as has been mentioned before had the fewest rushing yards in the NFL.

 

[THESMEL]

Well Why was we 24th in rushing?

24th as a team rushing, but more balanced

Cards 2011 stats
http://www.nfl.com/teams/arizonacardinals/statistics?team=ARI

Beanie was 8th or 9th in total carries last year (depending on where you go for stats). What more could anyone want? I love it when dudes throw out stats saying we passed it 100% of the time, and when you go check the running stats you realize we were top 10 in running attempts.

Look, being top 10 in rushing attempts is stellar (as far as I'm concerned). Beanie had a great year for him and for us last year. Don't understand the complaints. The only thing that held CHRIS FREAKING WELLS back last year were his own injuries. Without injuries he may even be top 5 in attempts last year. TOP 5!!!! Without injuries he probably rushes for 1500 yards.

However, I'm sure his injuries were also Whiz's fault for not "coaching him up" or making the right calls or perhaps simply because he didn't pad his ego and baby him enough. Give me a break. Beanie proved last year he is a man, a stud, who can play with injuries and play in pain.

The goal isn't to get him more carries, but less. He needs to share carries with Williams (assuming he's healthy enough to return in good form). You pretend to care about Beanie, then prolong his career by doling out his carries in CRUCIAL spots instead of giving it to him so many times in bad spots, that's the goal. I bet even Bean would agree with this. Give it to him after the D is worn down with his running, with Williams running, with TE's Heap and Hostler catching, with Fitz and Floyd catching. Then when he does run, with his power and frame, it'll be like running over softened gelatin.

Beanie is the type of back built for running out games. He didn't do that at all last year, because we had nobody else and our passing game sucked. But that's what he's built for. To get up on teams and just smash smash slobber-knock the D on their heels when we have a lead. None of the breaking outside crap (where he gets tripped by the ankles trying to make a play), more like when he went for the Cards rushing record and went right up the middle. That's what we need. And we get that, in games we're ahead, with 4 minutes left, and he's just grinding and grinding and pounding and our appreciation of Beanie will reach astronomical heights.

 

[Phrazbit]

24th as a team rushing, but more balanced

Cards 2011 stats
http://www.nfl.com/teams/arizonacardinals/statistics?team=ARI

... because our offense as a whole sucked. Also, we virtually always played from behind which leads to passing stats getting padded.

Its a vicious cycle, if our passing offense was more consistent the rushing game would be better and probably get more opportunities. Teams routinely stacked the box against us because our inept QBs were not much of a threat.

 

[Duckjake]

... because our offense as a whole sucked. Also, we virtually always played from behind which leads to passing stats getting padded.

Its a vicious cycle, if our passing offense was more consistent the rushing game would be better and probably get more opportunities. Teams routinely stacked the box against us because our inept QBs were not much of a threat.

Yet the Cards still averaged over 4 yards per carry rushing: higher than any other team in our Division. We also had the highest average yards per attempt passing in our Division. Oddly enough we were 15th in both rushing average 4.2 and passing average 7.2. And 14 teams had a higher average # of pass attempts per game. As I like to say there's nothing conventional about the Cardinals.

Want to know what the stats say our problems are other than QB? 29th in 3rd down conversion %. -13 in turnovers and 9th in penalty yards.

 

[THESMEL]

agree Kind of sorta

We had about 100 less offensive plays than opponents or about 2 games less in offensive snaps, that is why I blame the playcaller, We did run more and more consistant than the previous 4 years, which is not saying much.

It did take some amount of pressure of the defense and special teams.
But we were not last in rushing Yards and attempts with the worse starting RB in the NFL. I applaud the progress.

I don't disagree with the high power pass KW offense putting pressure on the opposing defense, I do disagree with with the total predictability and lack of balance. I am amazed how often opposing defenses play the run when we run less than 40% of the time, They do respect Beanie Wells.

He can embarrass a player and a whole defense. I have a bounty for someone, I'll give 10 pushups to anyone that can find and post the last play of the first half against the Ravens. The Bean plowed straight up the middle ran over Ed Reed. My favorite play, that i've only seen once.

Beanie wants 7 carries early to figure out the defense, set the tone, and wear down a defense, I don't think that is asking to much?

Yet the Cards still averaged over 4 yards per carry rushing: higher than any other team in our Division. We also had the highest average yards per attempt passing in our Division. Oddly enough we were 15th in both rushing average 4.2 and passing average 7.2. And 14 teams had a higher average # of pass attempts per game. As I like to say there's nothing conventional about the Cardinals.

Want to know what the stats say our problems are other than QB? 29th in 3rd down conversion %. -13 in turnovers and 9th in penalty yards.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Can't you smell that smell? Ooh, that smell. The smell of death surrounds you, yeah.

 

[Unsterblich856]

Wow, how did I know this would be a THESMEL post by just reading the title?

 

[gmabel830]

Wow, how did I know this would be a THESMEL post by just reading the title?

Word... Mods - if we are going to keep this thread active for another 2 weeks or more, can we at least make the thread title a complete thought?