Steve Keim taking an indefinite, health-related leave of absence

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Glazer now saying Kliff and Keim are out. He’s close with both of them so would know.

 

[CardsFan88]

If VJ is the pick, and with Wilks's lawsuit, MB won't have the stones to fire him after one (likely even two) years.

My fear is it'll be protracted to fini$h the previou$ contract$.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Do we have to wait until tomorrow?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Glazer now saying Kliff and Keim are out. He’s close with both of them so would know.

I sure hope this is true

 

[SoonerLou]

Full disengagement from me when this happens.

Cant wait to see Will Anderson guarding Kittle!!

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Full disengagement from me when this happens.

Right there with you

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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We don’t we have a praying emoji?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Watching Vance give Will Anderson 30% snaps as a rookie will break me.

But then you’ll miss him dropping into coverage’

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

and drop into coverage for 1/3 of those snaps

Ya beat me

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

But then you’ll miss him dropping into coverage’

Guess this one was too obvious

 

[FB94]

But then you’ll miss him dropping into coverage’

Or play safety

 

[football karma]

good two-fer here -- that Keim is out, but the org probably has to park him for a while due to employment laws

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[Stout]

good two-fer here -- that Keim is out, but the org probably has to park him for a while due to employment laws

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Baloney on the employment laws. I work in addictions and it doesn't make a damn bit of difference if you're in rehab or on the street ripping and running--any employer can can you because you will have given them cause. Late for meetings, showing up drunk, getting arrested for DUI, etc, are all a pattern an employer can use as fireable offenses.

 

[football karma]

Baloney on the employment laws. I work in addictions and it doesn't make a damn bit of difference if you're in rehab or on the street ripping and running--any employer can can you because you will have given them cause. Late for meetings, showing up drunk, getting arrested for DUI, etc, are all a pattern an employer can use as fireable offenses.

FWIW: as someone who has gone through some employment contract related drama for my employer at the time

Keim may have been in that grey area where he checked the boxes for doing his job, but everyone around him could tell whatever issues he had were negatively impacting him

add in that "addiction" is now generally considered a medical disability --- I could very well see an employment law attorney concluding that the team couldn't term for cause

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Baloney on the employment laws. I work in addictions and it doesn't make a damn bit of difference if you're in rehab or on the street ripping and running--any employer can can you because you will have given them cause. Late for meetings, showing up drunk, getting arrested for DUI, etc, are all a pattern an employer can use as fireable offenses.

It’s a bit different with a very public billion dollar business. I’m sure MB’s attorneys are telling him to do full CYA process.

 

[Stout]

It’s a bit different with a very public billion dollar business. I’m sure MB’s attorneys are telling him to do full CYA process.

I can see the attorneys telling him that, yes. I suppose the high profile case here does impact the process. It's just I have a very difficult time believing the team doesn't have the cause to fire him for cause, which would make any attempt at a lawsuit utterly futile. They CAN fire him, IMO; they're trying to find a different way, probably.

 

[Stout]

FWIW: as someone who has gone through some employment contract related drama for my employer at the time

Keim may have been in that grey area where he checked the boxes for doing his job, but everyone around him could tell whatever issues he had were negatively impacting him

add in that "addiction" is now generally considered a medical disability --- I could very well see an employment law attorney concluding that the team couldn't term for cause

Perhaps!

 

[RON_IN_OC]

They need to follow the lead from a few years ago when the washington, then Redskins, had a similar issue with their general manager. His name is escaping me at the moment, but he was a really good general manager who just could not get over his alcohol demons.

 

[ajcardfan]

I am very certain that Keim filed for FMLA. FMLA is in effect for 12 weeks. It's not 12 weeks yet since he went on leave. Employers cannot fire someone when they are in FMLA.

I believe they worked on a severance package to get him to resign.