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Percy Harvin - couldn't stay healthy in college but he's going to stay healthy in the NFL? I don't get it.

All three USC backers - They all seem like products of a system and working with each other. None of them have a great upside and while they may not be total busts, I don't see a single Pro Bowl between the three.
 

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1. Any QB picked in the 1st round
2. Darrius Heywood Bey
 

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Percy Harvin - couldn't stay healthy in college but he's going to stay healthy in the NFL? I don't get it.

All three USC backers - They all seem like products of a system and working with each other. None of them have a great upside and while they may not be total busts, I don't see a single Pro Bowl between the three.


Wow... Maybe 1 but all three? If USC is good at something, it's LB'ers.
 

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Wow... Maybe 1 but all three? If USC is good at something, it's LB'ers.
Really? Here are the USC linebackers of the past 10 years:

Keith Rivers (1st round 2008)
Thomas Williams (5th round 2008)
Dallas Sartz (5th round 2007)
Oscar Lua (7th round 2007)
Darnell Bing (4th round 2006)
Lofa Tatupa (2nd round 2005)
Markus Steele (4th round 2001)
Zeke Moreno (5th round 2001)
Chris Claiborne (1st round 1999)
 

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Really? Here are the USC linebackers of the past 10 years:

Keith Rivers (1st round 2008)
Thomas Williams (5th round 2008)
Dallas Sartz (5th round 2007)
Oscar Lua (7th round 2007)
Darnell Bing (4th round 2006)
Lofa Tatupa (2nd round 2005)
Markus Steele (4th round 2001)
Zeke Moreno (5th round 2001)
Chris Claiborne (1st round 1999)

Um you named a bunch of 4th and 5th round guys. Claiborne was a bust but he wasn't under Carroll. Lofa is a stud and Rivers is a star in the making. I think Rey and Matthews will both be studs and while I am not as positive about Cushing I like him too.

I think you are totally off on this one even with Harvin. I don't think he will be an all pro WR but i think he will have Reggie Bush like numbers in REC and return yardage which is hardly bust worthy - especially if he goes where many expect in the 20s.

Here's my bust list:

Orapko
Eugene Monroe
Lauranitis
Freeman
 

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Um you named a bunch of 4th and 5th round guys. Claiborne was a bust but he wasn't under Carroll. Lofa is a stud and Rivers is a star in the making. I think Rey and Matthews will both be studs and while I am not as positive about Cushing I like him too.
I never said that those were all top shelf players. I was responding to this statement......
Wow... Maybe 1 but all three? If USC is good at something, it's LB'ers.
 

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I never said that those were all top shelf players. I was responding to this statement......

Ok. But 12 LBs (including 5 likely 1st rounders) in ten years from one college program would make them a good LB school, no?
 

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Ok. But 12 LBs in ten years from one college program would make them a good LB school, no?
If you prefer quantity over quality I guess.

Here are how some other big name schools fared over the past ten years:

Michigan: 8 guys including Larry Foote, LaMarr Woodley, Dahani Jones, Ian Gold

Miami: 9 guys including Jon Beason, Jonathon Vilma, Dan Morgan, DJ Williams

Florida State: 10 guys and their list is pretty poor considering it's highlighted by Kamerion Wimbley, Earnie Sims, Buster Davis and Lawrence Timmons

Florida: 8 guys including Channing Crowder, Andra Davis, Mike Peterson

Oklahoma: 8 guys and a really bad list headlined by Rocky Calmus and Teddy Lehman

Texas: One guy, Derrick Johnson (suprising but I bet all of these are skewed a bit b/c some DE's end up as OLB, but I'm going by what they're listed at during the draft)

Ok so I'm just super bored today.
 

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OK everybody who listed DRC in last year's bust thread please stand up. :D
 

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If you prefer quantity over quality I guess.

Here are how some other big name schools fared over the past ten years:

Michigan: 8 guys including Larry Foote, LaMarr Woodley, Dahani Jones, Ian Gold

Miami: 9 guys including Jon Beason, Jonathon Vilma, Dan Morgan, DJ Williams

Florida State: 10 guys and their list is pretty poor considering it's highlighted by Kamerion Wimbley, Earnie Sims, Buster Davis and Lawrence Timmons

Florida: 8 guys including Channing Crowder, Andra Davis, Mike Peterson

Oklahoma: 8 guys and a really bad list headlined by Rocky Calmus and Teddy Lehman

Texas: One guy, Derrick Johnson (suprising but I bet all of these are skewed a bit b/c some DE's end up as OLB, but I'm going by what they're listed at during the draft)

Ok so I'm just super bored today.

I'll go on a limb and say Lofa is more accomplished then any of those guys and Rivers has shown as high a ceiling as anyone except maybe Beason.

And once these 3 guys go in the first round I bet cash money that one of them ends up a star (my gues is Rey Rey)

So thats quality and quantity:)

What you have taught me today is that maybe its best to get a OLB from a small school.
 

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OK everybody who listed DRC in last year's bust thread please stand up. :D

I picked him....couldn't be happier than to be wrong.

Year before I picked Levi Brown & Alan Branch(jury is still out on that, hope I am wrong again though)...not sure who I picked the pprevious years(although I know I didn't like Winston Justice & Max Jean-Gilles, despite the lovefest that was going on with those guys on here).
 

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OK everybody who listed DRC in last year's bust thread please stand up. :D

/slowly stands up/

I think I did

something along the lines of.... "he was a third round pick based on film when the season ended, and based on a lights out combine performance, everyone is over-rating him"

glad to have that day job.............................
 
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/slowly stands up/

I think I did

something along the lines of.... "he was a third round pick based on film when the season ended, and based on a lights out combine performance, everyone is over-rating him"

glad to have that day job.............................

Aha. That's the reason for your name change. en fuego burned out in shame.

I'd have to look and I'm too lazy or afraid of what I'd find. RB Peterson might have been one of my picks for bust two years ago.
 

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Mark Sanchez
Matt Stafford

Just going off the past history of QB underclassmen and their success in the NFL, these guys don't have a chance.

Other than them...

1-Beanie Wells
2-Darrius Heyward-Bey


Most likely to succeed.
1-Eugene Monroe
2-Aaron Curry
 

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