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Wasn't it nice to be on the up side of a poorly officiated game? I'd be eager to see the snap of the football on the field goal and the throwing of the red flag to see what came first, the whistles certainly didn't blow until after the ball was snapped. So many times we came in on the losing side of weird calls or obscure rules, I like being on the other side.

I saw an article about the 9ers coach wanting to talk to the NFL about the officiating (http://www.examiner.com/san-francis...augh-to-contact-league-about-game-officiating). Good to see everyone gets royally screwed from time to time. True parity.
 

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Harbaugh may want to be careful on that. I can think of a few examples of non calls that clearly favored the Niners.

#1. Skelton slides and a 49er plows into him, forcing a fumble. If that is any QB on the East Coast, that is 15 yards and a big fine for whomever did it.

#2. Fitz gets blind side blasted while the ball is in the air by a DB. Next series we blast a receiver and it is called a personal foul. Both were personal fouls.

#3. Skelton tosses the ball to Andre Roberts and the DB clearly gets there early and interferes with him, popping the ball in the air and giving the 49ers great field position.

Each one of these costs the Cardinals a possession. The officiating wasn't great on either side. I saw 2 Cardinals holding penalties on Brandon Keith that were clear as day from my seats but no call. Iaupati also had several holds that were not called on near sacks.

Ultimately the officials let them play. A 10-3 team whining about the officiating is unbecoming.
 
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I COMPLETELY agree with #1. I was screaming from my nosebleeds that skelton was sliding and the second he starts sliding the play is dead. That was a horrible non call. I think we should have been able to challenge that his forward progress was stopped though, not sure why we didn't challenge. We would have kept the ball even if we didn't get the penalty.

I agree with the other 2 also, just less than #1.
 

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You really have to wonder about the officiating. I was watching a couple of games and in one there is clearly a block in the back during a long run in open field and nothing is called. In another on a very similar play there is a flag for clipping. Now I can understand some holds being missed in line play since there are so many big bodies in there and an official's vision may get blocked but when there are blatant fouls in the open field where even the guy in the last seat in the nosebleed section can see it you have to wonder how those are missed.
 

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Harbaugh is a mega douche.

Regardless, it could have been so much worse. We could have drawn Jerome Boger again.

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Wasn't it nice to be on the up side of a poorly officiated game? I'd be eager to see the snap of the football on the field goal and the throwing of the red flag to see what came first, the whistles certainly didn't blow until after the ball was snapped. So many times we came in on the losing side of weird calls or obscure rules, I like being on the other side.

I saw an article about the 9ers coach wanting to talk to the NFL about the officiating (http://www.examiner.com/san-francis...augh-to-contact-league-about-game-officiating). Good to see everyone gets royally screwed from time to time. True parity.

I heard something abuot that in the postgame show in the Bay Area that said they told Harbaugh the flag was thrown and the ref blew the whistle prior to the snap it just wasn't heard. If you watch the replay they're blowing whistles over and over so just because when we heard it, the ball was snapped, doesn't mean they hadn't already blown the play dead.

Harbaugh doesn't like the call but he seems to accept it was in fact blown dead.
 

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Harbaugh may want to be careful on that. I can think of a few examples of non calls that clearly favored the Niners.

#1. Skelton slides and a 49er plows into him, forcing a fumble. If that is any QB on the East Coast, that is 15 yards and a big fine for whomever did it.

#2. Fitz gets blind side blasted while the ball is in the air by a DB. Next series we blast a receiver and it is called a personal foul. Both were personal fouls.

#3. Skelton tosses the ball to Andre Roberts and the DB clearly gets there early and interferes with him, popping the ball in the air and giving the 49ers great field position.

Each one of these costs the Cardinals a possession. The officiating wasn't great on either side. I saw 2 Cardinals holding penalties on Brandon Keith that were clear as day from my seats but no call. Iaupati also had several holds that were not called on near sacks.

Ultimately the officials let them play. A 10-3 team whining about the officiating is unbecoming.


Yeah it went both ways, Goldson hit Skelton as he was sliding, the ball was knocked out from behind I think by Smith, but Goldson's hit should have negated the penalty.

Iupati and Davis are just dirty, the first game Davis kept hitting after the whistle, Sunday Iupati dove on and speared a Cardinal player who'd just flushed Smith out of the pocket into a sack. As Smith is falling forward there's Iupati jumping on top of the Card DL and spearing him no call. I pointed it out during the game thread and also asked how many times is he going to hold before they finally call it. They eventually did call one on him. When you can see the jersey of the guy he's blocking pull away from the body it's a pretty good tip he's holding the jersey.

It was a very competitive game, we got some calls, they got some calls, WE WON.
 

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Harbaugh is a mega douche.

Regardless, it could have been so much worse. We could have drawn Jerome Boger again.

"Too many mens on da feeelll, fiffftweeenn yawwwddsss, fust down."

Harbaugh is extremely competitive to put it politely. It seems to be serving him well, but IMO he is over the top in relentlessly criticizing the officiating and contesting absolutely every situation that doesn't go his way. He's a good coach, but his sideline demeanor is borderline psycho.
 
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Harbaugh may want to be careful on that. I can think of a few examples of non calls that clearly favored the Niners.

#1. Skelton slides and a 49er plows into him, forcing a fumble. If that is any QB on the East Coast, that is 15 yards and a big fine for whomever did it.

#2. Fitz gets blind side blasted while the ball is in the air by a DB. Next series we blast a receiver and it is called a personal foul. Both were personal fouls.

#3. Skelton tosses the ball to Andre Roberts and the DB clearly gets there early and interferes with him, popping the ball in the air and giving the 49ers great field position.

Each one of these costs the Cardinals a possession. The officiating wasn't great on either side. I saw 2 Cardinals holding penalties on Brandon Keith that were clear as day from my seats but no call. Iaupati also had several holds that were not called on near sacks.

Ultimately the officials let them play. A 10-3 team whining about the officiating is unbecoming.

In the Patriots game the same thing as #1 happened to Brady & a personal foul was called. Unnecessary roughness.
 

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Yeah it went both ways, Goldson hit Skelton as he was sliding, the ball was knocked out from behind I think by Smith, but Goldson's hit should have negated the penalty.

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Smith hit the ball just before Skelton started sliding. Goldson was already in motion to hit Skelton as he started sliding, there is no way he could have stopped. Players cannot make the choice to not hit a qb just because they might start sliding.

It was probably a good call all around, and believe me, I am a Cards fan.
 

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Smith hit the ball just before Skelton started sliding. Goldson was already in motion to hit Skelton as he started sliding, there is no way he could have stopped. Players cannot make the choice to not hit a qb just because they might start sliding.

It was probably a good call all around, and believe me, I am a Cards fan.

Yeah, and the EXACT SAME THING happened to Brady, sans the fumble, and it was of course called a personal foul. That happened this week, btw.
 

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Yeah, and the EXACT SAME THING happened to Brady, sans the fumble, and it was of course called a personal foul. That happened this week, btw.

You don't even have to look to other games. Later in our game their guy dove at Skelton as John was trying to get away and accidentally hit Skelton at the knee, and they called roughing.

The NFL has said if you're going to err, err on the side of caution, call the penalty.

i've seen that play called roughing repeatedly you can't hit a sliding QB. I've even seen guys clearly try ease up and miss the QB but if they hit him, they get called.

Smith's play was totally clean he's allowed to strip the ball like that, but Goldson's hit will be called roughing more often than not.
 

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I heard something abuot that in the postgame show in the Bay Area that said they told Harbaugh the flag was thrown and the ref blew the whistle prior to the snap it just wasn't heard. If you watch the replay they're blowing whistles over and over so just because when we heard it, the ball was snapped, doesn't mean they hadn't already blown the play dead.

Harbaugh doesn't like the call but he seems to accept it was in fact blown dead.

LOL.

Harbaugh has to accept and realize he was playing the Cardinals, who are the obsolute dead last team that will have any sympathy for bad calls.

The Cardinals get hosed rather consistently, it has been better as of late (last 4 years) but look no further than NYG Cruz incident to see why the Cardinals can care less if the Niners were screwed.

Oh well.

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Harbaugh is extremely competitive to put it politely. It seems to be serving him well, but IMO he is over the top in relentlessly criticizing the officiating and contesting absolutely every situation that doesn't go his way. He's a good coach, but his sideline demeanor is borderline psycho.

I don't mean this to offend anyone, but I can't stop thinking it. I think he has Asperger's. I work with a guy that has this condition and Harbaugh reminds me of his so much, it isn't funny.
 
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Harbaugh is extremely competitive to put it politely. It seems to be serving him well, but IMO he is over the top in relentlessly criticizing the officiating and contesting absolutely every situation that doesn't go his way. He's a good coach, but his sideline demeanor is borderline psycho.
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Harbaugh is extremely competitive to put it politely. It seems to be serving him well, but IMO he is over the top in relentlessly criticizing the officiating and contesting absolutely every situation that doesn't go his way. He's a good coach, but his sideline demeanor is borderline psycho.

Oh I know Harbaugh well, from watching him play to watching him coach at 'Furd. He is intense to the next level, and definitely over the top. I would almost say it makes him come off as socially awkward at times. He is also a gambler, just like he was as a player, and it's especially funny to see his face when his gambles don't play out how he wants them to.
 
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