Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

[elindholm]

You had me until they said Chris Paul is a better player than Beal. That is simply not true, in any universe.

I guess it depends on how far into the future you're looking, but if the "universe" is the 2024-25 season, Paul has been quite a bit better than Beal.

Among other things, the number of games Paul has missed so far this season is ... zero. That's pretty darned impressive.

 

[taz02]

Whatever the case, I guarantee we wouldn't make the Beal trade again. Isn't CP3 making 10mm this year?

 

[Mainstreet]

Interesting, the contract of James Jones expires this offseason, per Evan Sidery.

I knew he had signed a multi-year contract in 2022, but I was uncertain about the length.

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[Hoop Head]

Interesting, the contract of James Jones expires this offseason, per Evan Sidery.

I knew he had signed a multi-year contract in 2022, but I was uncertain about the length.

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That is the best news I've heard in a while.

 

[GatorAZ]

I’d keep Beal and see if you can make a deal with his expiring next offseason. If he doesn’t waive his NTC you can buy him out most likely. Stretching him over 5 years would be dumber than the trade itself.

 

[Phrazbit]

You had me until they said Chris Paul is a better player than Beal. That is simply not true, in any universe.

Paul is better than Beal by an extremely wide margin.

 

[Mainstreet]

I’d keep Beal and see if you can make a deal with his expiring next offseason. If he doesn’t waive his NTC you can buy him out most likely. Stretching him over 5 years would be dumber than the trade itself.

This is the logical approach, but Gambo says Beal is not coming back and when he is decisive, he is usually right.

My guess is the Suns have talked with Beal's agent about a buyout and stretch or there is a team out there that will trade for him, as unlikely as it may sound.

 

[BirdGangThing]

idc if ish has to pay beal to retire - he needs to lol

 

[leclerc]

Ish needs to sign Gillespie and avoid the topic about contract extension for JJ. Simple. Let us see what great mind Ish has. Make me a gawd dang believer. What I see is a middle aged man wearing sweatshirts and the moves he has made/approved have failed miserably.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Paul is better than Beal by an extremely wide margin.

Yeah… I think if this team had CP3 this year instead of Beal they’d be much better than they are.

Beal is beyond busted. At least CP3 was helping nurture the Spurs into a better team and has been healthy all year.

 

[Covert Rain]

You had me until they said Chris Paul is a better player than Beal. That is simply not true, in any universe.

I guess that depends on perspective. If you can't rely on Beal to even play? You can make an argument lots of players are better. Not from a where is their talent level now perspective for sure considering CP3's age but from an impact on our team perspective. I think the Suns are better with CP3 on this team than Beal.....with a big caveat. Assuming CP3 would stay healthy either.

 

[SirStefan32]

Come on guys, a 40 year old Chris Paul is not a better player than Bradley Beal. If you want to argue that Paul would be more valuable to the Suns or that he is a better fit- sure, that's a reasonable argument and I tend to agree. However, that's a completely different argument. I am as disappointed with Beal as you guys are, but Chris Paul at his age is not a better player than Beal.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Come on guys, a 40 year old Chris Paul is not a better player than Bradley Beal. If you want to argue that Paul would be more valuable to the Suns or that he is a better fit- sure, that's a reasonable argument and I tend to agree. However, that's a completely different argument. I am as disappointed with Beal as you guys are, but Chris Paul at his age is not a better player than Beal.

What Bradley Beal have some of you been watching? He plays no defense, he shows almost zero heart on the floor, and most important, a player’s availability is just as important as his ability.

 

[BirdGangThing]

beal when healthy is a starter - cp3 will never be a starter again only due to age - as it stands today beal is the better player - if both were free agents beal would clearly command more money

that being said - if im playing a pick up game at the y tomorrow and had to choose between the two it's cp3 all day

 

[Hoop Head]

beal when healthy is a starter - cp3 will never be a starter again only due to age - as it stands today beal is the better player - if both were free agents beal would clearly command more money

that being said - if im playing a pick up game at the y tomorrow and had to choose between the two it's cp3 all day

CP3 has started 80 games this year. Saying he's not a starter doesn't make it so. That's twice as many as Beal, for those counting.

 

[Yuma]

I’d keep Beal and see if you can make a deal with his expiring next offseason. If he doesn’t waive his NTC you can buy him out most likely. Stretching him over 5 years would be dumber than the trade itself.

IF we get to the last year of his contract, we ARE waiving and stretch THAT. No problem.

 

[BirdGangThing]

can we lock and burn this thread

 

[Covert Rain]

Not saying this is going to happen but a fellow exec I work with that lives in New York is saying that on the local sports radio there is a ton of talk about the Knicks wanting Durant.

He also told me in a twist that the Knicks might not be interested in resigning Bridges because he never turned into the star they thought he might become after that breakout season with the Nets. Fans are upset they gave up all those picks for A good role player. In today’s market they might have to overpay to keep him and they are hesitant to tie up Star money in a guy that has only averaged 20+ points one season with the Nets.

 

[GatorAZ]

Not saying this is going to happen but a fellow exec I work with that lives in New York is saying that on the local sports radio there is a ton of talk about the Knicks wanting Durant.

He also told me in a twist that the Knicks might not be interested in resigning Bridges because he never turned into the star they thought he might become after that breakout season with the Nets. Fans are upset they gave up all those picks for A good role player. In today’s market they might have to overpay to keep him and they are hesitant to tie up Star money in a guy that has only averaged 20+ points one season with the Nets.

It would have to be OG and Mitchell Robinson to match salaries in a deal. Not interested in that.

 

[Covert Rain]

It would have to be OG and Mitchell Robinson to match salaries in a deal. Not interested in that.

Oh yeah not saying it would be a good deal but the Bridges stuff is interesting. We gave up a ton for Durant and it didn’t work out. Knick’s give up a ton for Bridges and there is thought they overpaid with assets and it may not work out.

 

[Mainstreet]

Not saying this is going to happen but a fellow exec I work with that lives in New York is saying that on the local sports radio there is a ton of talk about the Knicks wanting Durant.

He also told me in a twist that the Knicks might not be interested in resigning Bridges because he never turned into the star they thought he might become after that breakout season with the Nets. Fans are upset they gave up all those picks for A good role player. In today’s market they might have to overpay to keep him and they are hesitant to tie up Star money in a guy that has only averaged 20+ points one season with the Nets.

It would have to be OG and Mitchell Robinson to match salaries in a deal. Not interested in that.

The Knicks overpaid for Mikal Bridges. However, I'd be interested in OG Anunoby or Bridges.

Anunoby might better fill a need because he can play power forward. Also, I'm not sure if OG has peaked. I think he can play even better.

Mitchell Robinson is an expiring contract next season and he would be fine as a backup center.

 

[Hoop Head]

The Knicks overpaid for Mikal Bridges. However, I'd be interested in OG Anunoby or Bridges.

Anunoby might better fill a need because he can play power forward. Also, I'm not sure if OG has peaked. I think he can play even better.

Mitchell Robinson is an expiring contract next season and he would be fine as a backup center.

OG can play PF in the East. He isn't what we need at PF. We need someone bigger, no less than 6'8" and a better rebounder. I like OG as a player but I think he's miscast in New York with their current crew. He'd be a disappointing centerpiece in a KD deal.

 

[Yuma]

It would have to be OG and Mitchell Robinson to match salaries in a deal. Not interested in that.

That's why it's key to jettison some of the non guaranteed contracts we have and briefly get under the second apron. Then we can do a multi player trade and more options come into play. We could trade player or players aside from KD if we wanted Bridges thrown into the trade, for example.

 

[Phrazbit]

Come on guys, a 40 year old Chris Paul is not a better player than Bradley Beal. If you want to argue that Paul would be more valuable to the Suns or that he is a better fit- sure, that's a reasonable argument and I tend to agree. However, that's a completely different argument. I am as disappointed with Beal as you guys are, but Chris Paul at his age is not a better player than Beal.

Paul is worlds better than Beal, it isn’t even close. The stats show this to be a fact in almost every way imaginable. Advanced stats show Paul to still be a high quality player, and portray Beal as being utterly terrible.

Beal had the worst splits of any player on the Suns by a huge margin.

 

[Mainstreet]

OG can play PF in the East. He isn't what we need at PF. We need someone bigger, no less than 6'8" and a better rebounder. I like OG as a player but I think he's miscast in New York with their current crew. He'd be a disappointing centerpiece in a KD deal.

I could see the Suns playing bookend forwards with OG. He can play both forward positions and seems to fit the new style of NBA play. I'd like to get more for Durant, but I think he is a solid return.