Suns 2024-2025 Season Discussions

Suns_fan69

Official ASFN Lurker
Joined
Oct 2, 2002
Posts
3,771
Reaction score
2,224
Location
Vancouver, BC, Canada
As a shooting guard, he was steadily improving as a defender. Even spending much of his time now as a point guard his stats are still okay (mostly) but he's just not capable of defending any of the PGs in this league and it puts our entire defensive scheme in jeopardy.
His on ball defense is better, but he's very frequently losing sight of his man off-ball. Sometimes he's so caught up in trying to be in help position that his man backdoors him or re-locates for a wide open 3. Nash was like this all the time too.
 

Hoop Head

ASFN Icon
Joined
Feb 4, 2005
Posts
18,508
Reaction score
13,989
Location
Tempe, AZ
As a shooting guard, he was steadily improving as a defender. Even spending much of his time now as a point guard his stats are still okay (mostly) but he's just not capable of defending any of the PGs in this league and it puts our entire defensive scheme in jeopardy.

Booker lacks the foot speed and shouldn't be guarding opposing PG's but he is better suited than Tyus, who is just atrocious on defense. I think he's gotten worse as the year has gone on.

I heard some rumblings back when Beal was moved to the bench that Bud wanted to bring Tyus off the bench but he's been mandated to start Tyus since Tyus coming here for the minimum was based on him starting. It'll be interesting to see if he continues to start going forward because I believe Beal is more deserving than Tyus since we aren't utilizing Tyus' PG skills early on anyways.
 

Phrazbit

ASFN Icon
Joined
Oct 10, 2011
Posts
20,683
Reaction score
11,979
As a shooting guard, he was steadily improving as a defender. Even spending much of his time now as a point guard his stats are still okay (mostly) but he's just not capable of defending any of the PGs in this league and it puts our entire defensive scheme in jeopardy.

Booker was one of the defensive standouts in the olympics, but his offensive burden was far lighter than what we're asking of him. Other than his 3 point shooting, his offensive numbers are still great, I think most of his issues are that he's been put in a bad situation, often defending out of position and rarely getting to run around off the ball on offense, something he is GREAT at but our current personnel require him to either create for himself and others or... stand around watching Durant go ISO.

I don't doubt that he is still a top 2 or 3 SG... but he's not getting to actually play that role very often.

Jones being a complete doormat on defense and his continued shrinking on offense has been probably the most dissapointing storyline so far this year.
 

AzStevenCal

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2004
Posts
37,208
Reaction score
17,237
Booker was one of the defensive standouts in the olympics, but his offensive burden was far lighter than what we're asking of him. Other than his 3 point shooting, his offensive numbers are still great, I think most of his issues are that he's been put in a bad situation, often defending out of position and rarely getting to run around off the ball on offense, something he is GREAT at but our current personnel require him to either create for himself and others or... stand around watching Durant go ISO.

I don't doubt that he is still a top 2 or 3 SG... but he's not getting to actually play that role very often.

Jones being a complete doormat on defense and his continued shrinking on offense has been probably the most dissapointing storyline so far this year.
Yeah if it wasn't clear, it's his defense at the 1 spot that I was talking about. There are a few shooting guards that he can't handle but that's pretty much true for all of them. And while I think overall he's had a disappointing season, he's been much more like his old self for more than a month now. I just wish the team or Devin would get over this fascination with having him play lead guard.
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
121,310
Reaction score
61,850
As a shooting guard, he was steadily improving as a defender. Even spending much of his time now as a point guard his stats are still okay (mostly) but he's just not capable of defending any of the PGs in this league and it puts our entire defensive scheme in jeopardy.

IMO, this more of a personnel problem because Tyus should be defending point guards.

This is probably why Ty Ty Washington is getting minutes.
 

95pro

ASFN Icon
Joined
May 10, 2007
Posts
13,201
Reaction score
4,579
Booker was one of the defensive standouts in the olympics, but his offensive burden was far lighter than what we're asking of him. Other than his 3 point shooting, his offensive numbers are still great, I think most of his issues are that he's been put in a bad situation, often defending out of position and rarely getting to run around off the ball on offense, something he is GREAT at but our current personnel require him to either create for himself and others or... stand around watching Durant go ISO.

I don't doubt that he is still a top 2 or 3 SG... but he's not getting to actually play that role very often.

Jones being a complete doormat on defense and his continued shrinking on offense has been probably the most dissapointing storyline so far this year.

And we don’t switch anything on defense.
 

Covert Rain

Father smelt of elderberries!
Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 27, 2005
Posts
37,595
Reaction score
17,028
Location
Arizona
Can they do an extension and trade?
Actually it would be part of a trade. I don't see a team giving up a ton of assets for him without the signing an extension as part of a trade or they have to take their chances he is a 1 year rental.
 
OP
OP
Yuma

Yuma

Suns are my Kryptonite!
Joined
Jan 3, 2003
Posts
23,833
Reaction score
13,501
Location
Laveen, AZ
Barring a sudden 10-12 win game streak, this team is cooked. Last night was a must win against the spurs, and the Spurs looked like a better constructed team, and they were missing their biggest star! Barring a KD trade, this is our team for two more seasons, with maybe getting a big man addition this off season.
 
Top