Suns And Blazers Complete Jones, Fernandez Trade

[DevonCardsFan]

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Suns And Blazers Complete Jones, Fernandez Trade
July 11, 2007 - 2:06 pm
RealGM Staff Report -
The Phoenix Suns today completed the trade that sends forward James Jones and the draft rights to Spanish guard Rudy Fernandez, the 24th pick overall in the first round of the 2007 NBA Draft, to the Portland Trail Blazers in exchange for cash considerations.

Jones, a fourth-year NBA veteran, averaged 6.4 points, 2.3 rebounds and 18.1 minutes in 76 games for the Suns last season. The 26-year-old, who was originally selected by the Pacers in the second round (49th overall) in the 2003 NBA Draft, averaged 5.0 points and 1.4 rebounds in 11 games (six starts) in the 2007 NBA Playoffs.

 

[asudevil83]

i've had mixed feeling about this trade since it was announced. it makes sense from a financial standpoint and getting rid of Jones because of Hill is great.

but i would have assumed that Jones had enough value that it wouldnt take giving up a first rounder for a team to take him. his contract is more than decent, and he can play.

its almost as though the suns put these two into a package with the intent of not wanted to have either salaries on the roster. basically a "whoever wants them, take them" offer.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

Is "cash considerations" the 3 mil we got for the pick?

Can someone explain why cash considerations is acceptable to a reporter covering a story?

 

[jbeecham]

I think it's actually $3 million in cash and a $3 million trade exemption that we won't use to get more financial relief.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I think it's actually $3 million in cash and a $3 million trade exemption that we won't use to get more financial relief.

We don't get any more financial relief for having a trade exemption that we won't use. We will still have the same salary, if you will, with or without the TE. The TE is only good, if we plan on using it, which is highly unlikely.

 

[scoutmasterdave]

Let's combine the trade exception with Kurt Thomas and trade for someone!!

 

[Mainstreet]

i've had mixed feeling about this trade since it was announced. it makes sense from a financial standpoint and getting rid of Jones because of Hill is great.

but i would have assumed that Jones had enough value that it wouldnt take giving up a first rounder for a team to take him. his contract is more than decent, and he can play.

its almost as though the suns put these two into a package with the intent of not wanted to have either salaries on the roster. basically a "whoever wants them, take them" offer.

IMO James Jones had some positive value and I think he should have left the same way he arrived in Phoenix. The Suns gave a 2nd round pick to get him and the Suns should have received a 2nd round pick in return to trade him.

However, I think the Suns had the mindset to move a salary quickly because Grant Hill was coming aboard and this loss of salary would pay for Hill's salary not to mention help with the LT. It also gave a clear signal to Grant Hill the Suns were serious enough to move a player that plays his position. The most irritating thing to me is how little the Suns place value on their draft picks. I think this was just a quick way to clean some money off the books. Right now I'm thinking the Suns FO is thinking outside the NBA Draft in regard to how they want to bring talent to the Suns via trade or FA. I guess Q, Nash, James Jones, KT, Diaw and Banks are evidence of this new philosophy.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Let's combine the trade exception with Kurt Thomas and trade for someone!!

can't combine the TE with another player.

 

[scoutmasterdave]

can't combine the TE with another player.

Obviously you didn't see the .

 

[Mainstreet]

Let's combine the trade exception with Kurt Thomas and trade for someone!!

I was previously not a huge fan of KT but he really impressed me how he played position defense against TD so I hope the Suns can keep him or at least fulfill the same role at a cheaper salary.

That said, like one of the Hummer commercial suggests... I want to feel like a real man again. I want the Suns to have a huge banger on their roster.

 

[scoutmasterdave]

LOL - that joke was completely misunderstood - my fault. I don't want to trade Kurt Thomas, and I know all too well that you can't combine a TE with another player. I just wanted to be the first idiot to suggest both at the first possible opportunity.

 

[ArizonaSportsFan]

LOL - that joke was completely misunderstood - my fault. I don't want to trade Kurt Thomas, and I know all too well that you can't combine a TE with another player. I just wanted to be the first idiot to suggest both at the first possible opportunity.

I got you just fine on that. I was surprised there were those that didn't. But being a fan is stressful these days.

 

[jlove]

Let's combine the trade exception with Kurt Thomas and trade for someone!!

I'd trade KT and the TE to Washington for Etan Thomas and rights to Navarro. The Wizards have said, IF they trade the rights to Navarro that the team they trade him to will have to take Etan as well.

 

[azirish]

I'd trade KT and the TE to Washington for Etan Thomas and rights to Navarro. The Wizards have said, IF they trade the rights to Navarro that the team they trade him to will have to take Etan as well.

No way.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Thanks for your time here James. Although you certainly weren't the best player on the court, your hard work, solid defense and good three point shooting were attributes that were appreciated by this Suns fan.

 

[Mainstreet]

Thanks for your time here James. Although you certainly weren't the best player on the court, your hard work, solid defense and good three point shooting were attributes that were appreciated by this Suns fan.

Portland essentially received a solid role player in Jones and a promising young talent in Rudy Fernandez for 3 million. Well done Portland.

 

[azirish]

Portland essentially received a solid role player in Jones and a promising young talent in Rudy Fernandez for 3 million. Well done Portland.

That's assuming Fernadez will ever come to the NBA. I would not count on it.

From the Suns standpoint, they unloaded a player would was going to be out of the rotation and got some cash to pay a free agent in exchange for a draft pick they'd have used for the same guy they took a few picks later.

 

[Cheesebeef]

That's assuming Fernadez will ever come to the NBA. I would not count on it.

why?

 

[mjb21aztd]

we like trading away every pg we take in the draft dont we even though we need a backup...

 

[JCSunsfan]

i've had mixed feeling about this trade since it was announced. it makes sense from a financial standpoint and getting rid of Jones because of Hill is great.

but i would have assumed that Jones had enough value that it wouldnt take giving up a first rounder for a team to take him. his contract is more than decent, and he can play.

its almost as though the suns put these two into a package with the intent of not wanted to have either salaries on the roster. basically a "whoever wants them, take them" offer.

You know, that is what has been bothering me about this trade. Why was it necessary to combine the two? The 24 could have been sold for $3 million without sending JJ. JJ could have been dealt for something--a second rounder, anything. In fact, I think he almost had enough value to combine him with Banks and move both salaries.

 

[JCSunsfan]

We could have traded JJ for $3 million cash and kept Fernandez, let him stay over seas, and we would have been the same financially.

 

[Cheesebeef]

We could have traded JJ for $3 million cash and kept Fernandez, let him stay over seas, and we would have been the same financially.

i think you guys over-estimate Jr.'s value and underestimate other teams knowledge of our financial predicament.

 

[azirish]

why?

Fernandez is at very high risk of signing with one of the Spanish teams. Those teams pay extremely well and really love it when it is a guy from Spain. To come to the NBA would mean a huge salary cut with no guarantee of big money after the rookie contract.

BTW, I've read that the Magic would happily trade the rights Fran Vazquez to anybody with a first round pick.

 

[fordronken]

My guess is that the Suns were trying to dump a contract with that pick and the only one the Blazers were willing to take was Jones, who seems expendable at this point.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Fernandez is at very high risk of signing with one of the Spanish teams. Those teams pay extremely well and really love it when it is a guy from Spain. To come to the NBA would mean a huge salary cut with no guarantee of big money after the rookie contract.

BTW, I've read that the Magic would happily trade the rights Fran Vazquez to anybody with a first round pick.

Fran is the only example of this that I know of - but an example nonethless. I still don't think it means there's a HIGH risk of Fernandez never coming here and I'm pretty sure that I'll be proven right over the course of time like I usually am when we have a disagreement when you provide wild speculation about a scenario you have little knowledge about.