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wtf!
Mo has been on fire and porter couldn't put someone to stop him? why is Shaq playing so much for in there when they are trying to play fast? this is just stupid coaching
 

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WHY EVEN BOTHER?

Just walk up there and hand them the damn ball.
 

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17 turnover? This is ridiculous? Like we needed any help losing to this team! These players just don't focus, like they got their heads in the clouds or something
 

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I am not able to watch this game, but how the hell does Williams have 29 points at halftime?
 

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Nash gets criticized by some posters here for 1) turning the ball over too much and 2) not being able to guard the opposing point guard. Without Nash in the lineup, the Suns have already committed 17 turnovers at half time. That is more than their season average per game. They have also allowed the opposing point guard to score 29 points at half time. If Nash is primarily to blame for our high turnovers, why are we on pace to turn it over 34 times tonight without him? if he is the weakest point of our defense, why is Williams on pace to score 60?
 

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We're shooting 65% to their 47% and we're down by 12. Is there any other team in the history of the NBA that could manage that feat? Just press the big red button and explode this team. Trading one player isn't going to change anything when your ENTIRE team is bad on defense (except for Grant) and turnover prone. Trade Amare and this team still gives up 110 a night, constant huge games to scrub guards, and a billion turnovers.

And I'm not saying Mo is a scrub, but come on. Does he have to drop FORTY in a half on us to get us to send someone flying at him or what?

And a guy like Ben Wallace getting offensive rebounds is annoying, but why are MO WILLIAMS AND WALLY SZCZLERBERLBERBLSBSIFISERI getting multiple offensive rebounds? Jeez.
 
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The problem is really Porter. There is just no coherence in the game plan. With Shaq in there, you don't push the ball unless there is a clear fastbreak chance. All the tos in the last 4 min or so in the 2nd q were due to trying to do SSOL with Shaq in there, who played the whole 2nd. All the while, Mo was hot and shoot from everywhere with a simple screen, without Porter doing something to stop it. What the f$%^! Can't we just fire Porter middle in the game? Or does he want to force Kerr to fire him too, he'd be paid either way? :(
 
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yea! lets trade nash so stoudemire can be "the guy"
I dont know how you can fault Amare. He isnt letting Ben Wallace get offensive rebound after offensive rebound. He hasnt been turning the ball over. He is being aggressive and keeping Z from doing anything.
 

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Nash gets criticized by some posters here for 1) turning the ball over too much and 2) not being able to guard the opposing point guard. Without Nash in the lineup, the Suns have already committed 17 turnovers at half time. That is more than their season average per game. They have also allowed the opposing point guard to score 29 points at half time. If Nash is primarily to blame for our high turnovers, why are we on pace to turn it over 34 times tonight without him? if he is the weakest point of our defense, why is Williams on pace to score 60?

As I was watching Williams light up the court, I was thinking the exact same thing. Nash is not the problem with this team.
 

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Suns down 52-64 after the 2nd quarter. Suns shooting 65% with 1/3 3 pointers, Cavs 47% with 6/16 3 pointers. :(

Suns have committed 18 turnovers (Shaq and Dragic have 4), Cavs 8. :rolleyes:

Suns have 1 offensive rebound, Cavs 12. :rolleyes:

Suns have hit 11/12 free throws, Cavs have hit 8/12 free throws.

Mo Williams 29 points on 12/15 field goals with 4/4 3 pointers and 1/3 free throws. :rolleyes:

Just ugh. Can somebody please defend Mo Williams? And while we're at it please rebound the ball and enough with the freaking turnovers.

At least we've shot the ball very well so far.
 
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18 turnovers to 15 assists

12 offensive rebounds allowed to our 1.
 

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Nash gets criticized by some posters here for 1) turning the ball over too much and 2) not being able to guard the opposing point guard. Without Nash in the lineup, the Suns have already committed 17 turnovers at half time. That is more than their season average per game. They have also allowed the opposing point guard to score 29 points at half time. If Nash is primarily to blame for our high turnovers, why are we on pace to turn it over 34 times tonight without him? if he is the weakest point of our defense, why is Williams on pace to score 60?

If you use less-than-Nash players to play Nash-kind of ball, you are about to get more tos than Nash. That's on Porter! Playing SSOL with Shaq lumbering on the court is asking for desaster. Without Nash, you must play different to use Shaq's strength. Damn it!
 
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