Suns claim Luis Scola

[SweetD]

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I've seen you do this a couple times. Do you really not know it's spelled Houston or is there somes sort of joke I'm missing?

LOL inside joke that keeps me spelling it wrong. My bad. Houston is the correct spelling at least it wasn't BIM that got me.

 

[Folster]

With Scola, Gortat, and Dragic, the Suns will likely have 3 international players starting for them. Bryan Colangelo must be jealous.

 

[SweetD]

With Scola, Gortat, and Dragic, the Suns will likely have 3 international players starting for them. Bryan Colangelo must be jealous.

We could also bring back Barbosa as the SG then we are really talking.

 

[Griffin]

Now if the Suns also sign Lee as their starting SG next season (the Suns reportedly expressed interest) 3/5 of their starting lineup will consist of Rockets' starters from last season (at least when Dragic was starting). The Rockets went 13-13 over the last 26 games of the season while mainly sporting a starting lineup of Dragic-Lee-Parsons-Scola-Camby.

 

[Folster]

I calculated that with the amnesty of Childress and the addition of Scola, the Suns have roughly $14-15 million in cap space not including cap holds.

 

[sunsfan88]

In a vacuum, I like a lot of the players we've added. Unfortunately, teams just don't win anything of note with a bunch of good players, and we'll be just good enough to not get good draft picks.

I guess the hope would be to develop some of these younger guys and then have trade assets.

I would like to cite something I saw on realgm that will help those who see the current Suns situation the same way you do.

BurningHeart:
I swear, basketball fans need to get off this “if you ain’t first, you’re last” thing, because in the end, there are like, THREE contenders for a title each year.

You think Jordan’s Bulls were saying “oh ****, we barely got in, we have no shot, we can’t beat these damn Pistons or Celtics, **** it, let’s just blow it up”?!

You think the Warriors in 2007 said “Oh damn, we’re facing the Mavericks, they won 66 games this year, we’re gonna get rocked”?!

You guys are under this ridiculous notion that you can just throw a star team together and contend immediately, and if you can’t, then you might as well be in the bottom 5 of the league. Well guess what, outside of the top 5 and the bottom 5, there are a **** of teams that occupy those remaining spots.

There is something to be said about making smart moves to stay relevant. To grow chemistry. To gain experience. You think losers like Michael Beasley and OJ Mayo are going to respond well to bottoming out? No. How are idiots like THOSE guys going to learn ANYTHING about maturity if we’re drowning at the bottom? How do you figure a guy like Kendall Marshall or Markeiff Morris will grow as players if we’re down there? Getting guys like Scola, or Michael Redd, or whoever HELP the team regardless. They help the team grow. They help players grow up.

You guys think that you can suck, suck suck suck in this league, and just luck out off a **** pick. This is so ridiculous.

The NBA2k-ification, video game Miami Heat, OKC bull NBA fan mentality needs to stop.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I am not a big fan of this move. As I said before. Signing Scola makes us better, but there is no future in having him unless we can turn Scola into another future asset.

Now this could be done sooner rather than later. The depth Scola brings makes other players immediately tradeable.

Still. Nice. Not too much salary committed. But not much of a move into the future either.

 

[Mainstreet]

There is nothing wrong with adding a veteran player like Scola to the team. Every player on the Suns roster need not be young. There needs to be some mixture. The Suns are already going to be a young team with the planned roster changes. I think the idea of banking on being a bad team to secure an early draft pick is not the only way to get there... nor the sure way to get a top player. Acquiring trade assets and picks can get the Suns in position to get a top player as well. I just think a team banking on the idea of being bad to be good is a flawed philosophy.

 

[JCSunsfan]

There is nothing wrong with adding a veteran player like Scola to the team. Every player on the Suns roster need not be young. There needs to be some mixture. The Suns are already going to be a young team with the planned roster changes. I think the idea of banking on being a bad team to secure an early draft pick is not the only way to get there... nor the sure way to get a top player. Acquiring trade assets and picks can get the Suns in position to get a top player as well. I just think a team banking on the idea of being bad to be good is a flawed philosophy.

I am just more interested in acquiring young assets. Nothing wrong with Scola. Teams do need a mixture of vet and young talent when they are truly competing. That was part of the problem with those Clipper teams all those years. Oh well. You are probably right.

I still like the idea of getting Mayo. We probably need to move Frye or s&t Lopez. This might also be a good year to actually bring in somebody off of the summer league roster. I am thinking Lighty.

 

[Cheesebeef]

this team is so freaking stupid. just so freaking stupid. we're going to be the freaking Detroit Pistons forever.

good freaking God.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I am wondering how Scola's game will fit with Gortat. Seems like it is going to get a little crowded down low.

This might be the time to really explore what assets Gortat could get us.

 

[Mainstreet]

Right now, this moment, I like the way Babby is steering the Suns. Maybe it will change for the worse, but IMO he is pulling the right levers now. It's been a long time time since I have felt this way even temporarily about the Suns.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Right now, this moment, I like the way Babby is steering the Suns. Maybe it will change for the worse, but IMO he is pulling the right levers now. It's been a long time time since I have felt this way even temporarily about the Suns.

OK. I will say this about Babby. He is collecting potential trade assets including picks. He has not overpaid for players. While he has taken a risk with Beasley, he didn't mortgage the future to do it (the new CBA helps). He also seems to have a way with getting the attention of players in a good way. So good on him.

Now, can he somehow, someway, get us a superstar?

 

[NashDishesDimes]

I figured we had to bid higher than the 3.3 that was being speculated. Still not bad considering the current market for big men.

Good addition for the money. He averaged 18 and 8 the year before last. Hes a great stop gap until they find a PF in the draft

Just glad i dont have to watch Frye dance around down there anymore and get dunked on all the time. Frye will be a good bench guy to come in and provide a spark, if hes not shooting well, then the suns arent obligated to keep him in the game anymore

 

[Lefty]

Dumb signing. This team has no future plans.

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Dumb signing. This team has no future plans.

True. It just solidifies them in mediocrity with Mayo. But you cant blame the suns too much for improving their team at a good price

 

[Phrazbit]

Well, the good news is he is another player who has a good chance to add up to a net negative result in the win column.

The bad news is the new front office has once against demonstrated that they have no plan at all for the future of this franchise. They're just acquiring players, with no premonition of how they will fit, and with no value as trade chips.

 

[devilalum]

Well, the good news is he is another player who has a good chance to add up to a net negative result in the win column.

The bad news is the new front office has once against demonstrated that they have no plan at all for the future of this franchise. They're just acquiring players, with no premonition of how they will fit, and with no value as trade chips.

Its not like its a used car lot. There aren't dozens of free agents to choose from.

 

[SunsTzu]

Well, the good news is he is another player who has a good chance to add up to a net negative result in the win column.

I feel just the opposite. The team will be much better starting Scola next year than it would be starting Frye or Morris(unless Morris makes massive improvements).

If the reported 4.1mil 1st year, 4.5mil 2nd year, 440k buyout 3rd year are true then this is a very good deal. That is a minimal investment for what will likely be a very valuable asset next year.

 

[jagu]

Like the move, Scola is an asset we can trade later this season if need be or even next year and he'll help Dragic get comfortable in the starting PG role this year as well.

 

[TJ]

So what excuse are we going to make for ourselves once he starts flopping all over the court?


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[Phrazbit]

Its not like its a used car lot. There aren't dozens of free agents to choose from.

But if there are not any cars that suit your needs you can just walk away its not like you have to buy 6 of them.

I feel just the opposite. The team will be much better starting Scola next year than it would be starting Frye or Morris(unless Morris makes massive improvements).

If the reported 4.1mil 1st year, 4.5mil 2nd year, 440k buyout 3rd year are true then this is a very good deal. That is a minimal investment for what will likely be a very valuable asset next year.

From a competitive standpoint I wouldnt despise the move if we already had a decent team, but as far as the Suns building for the future it does not make any sense. We seem hell bent on making a 35 win team.

I dont really see a 34 year old Scola as a huge trade commodity. I mean, the dude just was amnestied. I'll pray that we can get a middling pick for him, but I think thats the absolute best we could hope for.

With this news about his knee injury I wonder if we will actually end up with him. On waiver claims does the player still have to pass a physical? If he is going to be out for a big chunk of next year then its a terrible acquisition on all fronts.

 

[Chaplin]

But if there are not any cars that suit your needs you can just walk away its not like you have to buy 6 of them.


From a competitive standpoint I wouldnt despise the move if we already had a decent team, but as far as the Suns building for the future it does not make any sense. We seem hell bent on making a 35 win team.

I dont really see a 34 year old Scola as a huge trade commodity. I mean, the dude just was amnestied. I'll pray that we can get a middling pick for him, but I think thats the absolute best we could hope for.

With this news about his knee injury I wonder if we will actually end up with him. On waiver claims does the player still have to pass a physical? If he is going to be out for a big chunk of next year then its a terrible acquisition on all fronts.

He's 32 and he wasn't amnestied because he couldn't play. Make sure you get your facts straight before you argue against something.

Basically your whole reason for being is dependent on whether Michael Beasley can play well or not. What a life.

 

[Cheesebeef]

But if there are not any cars that suit your needs you can just walk away its not like you have to buy 6 of them.


From a competitive standpoint I wouldnt despise the move if we already had a decent team, but as far as the Suns building for the future it does not make any sense. We seem hell bent on making a 35 win team.

I dont really see a 34 year old Scola as a huge trade commodity. I mean, the dude just was amnestied. I'll pray that we can get a middling pick for him, but I think thats the absolute best we could hope for.

no one's going to give up a first round pick for a 34 year old guy with bad knees.

so, the plan is to jettison Nash and old mediocre Suns club that barely missed the playoffs (good idea) and replace it with the somewhat younger mediocre Houston team from last year that barely made the playoffs? sweet.

freaking idiots running this team

 

[Cheesebeef]

Basically your whole reason for being is dependent on whether Michael Beasley can play well or not. What a life.

lol... nice unwarranted personal attack.

I'm just gonna refer to you as Kettle from now on.