Suns fire Jeff Hornacek

[Covert Rain]

You ask the question "how long before you can pass judgement", but you're essentially already starting to, by pointing out he hasn't lured any free agents or drafted a bona fide superstar that tears the league apart day one. IMO, it's too early to start down that road, since as you point out, he took over in 2013

Well of course I am. He is in year 3 of the 5 assuming that's how long you give him. I think I am only pointing out the obvious that he has failed to do any of the things I mention. That is not the same as saying that he won't by the time his 5 years comes up. I would personally love to see some stability in the FO as long as we continue to let basketball guys do their thing. However, I also get someone saying that 4 off seasons, 4 drafts and 4 free agent periods is enough to see what this guy is made of and this next year should be his last. I don't think that is unreasonable either.

 

[SO91]

Well of course I am. He is in year 3 of the 5 assuming that's how long you give him. I think I am only pointing out the obvious that he has failed to do any of the things I mention. That is not the same as saying that he won't by the time his 5 years comes up. I would personally love to see some stability in the FO as long as we continue to let basketball guys do their thing. However, I also get someone saying that 4 off seasons, 4 drafts and 4 free agent periods is enough to see what this guy is made of and this next year should be his last. I don't think that is unreasonable either.

I guess I don't see it that way. That first year set the franchise back at least another three. Almost making the playoffs pretty much made it impossible to not try for a playoff spot, thinking the team was closer than it was. That has clearly backfired and now we're starting over from where we should have 3 years ago. The GM gets some blame and I get that, but I don't think he's been so bad that we pull the plug after 4 or 5 years because we're not challenging for home court in the 1st round yet.

 

[Covert Rain]

I guess I don't see it that way. That first year set the franchise back at least another three. Almost making the playoffs pretty much made it impossible to not try for a playoff spot, thinking the team was closer than it was. That has clearly backfired and now we're starting over from where we should have 3 years ago. The GM gets some blame and I get that, but I don't think he's been so bad that we pull the plug after 4 or 5 years because we're not challenging for home court in the 1st round yet.

Fair enough. Like I said, I see both sides of the argument. Personally speaking I think 5 years is more than enough regardless of a franchises state.

 

[sunsfan88]

I wonder if Hornacek will find work as an assistant elsewhere this season itself.

 

[sunsfan88]

It's telling to me that all the national reports refer to Suns as "reeling," "in disarray," etc. And without any of the "once proud" qualifiers the team used to get. It's a bummer.

If McD is staying, then this is the real test. GMs don't usually get to fire more than two coaches. (Assuming this was McD's decision; if it wasn't he's probably done anyway.)

Yea I'd say if the next coach McD hires in the summer doesn't work out either, then he's gone too.

 

[sunsfan88]

This isn't about Jeff. I doubt it was McD who made the decision - unless Jeff went totally wild after the Dallas game and essentially got himself fired for being is antics.
I gotta believe Sarver and/or Babby forced this. And it's wrong of course...albeit inevitable.

Nope, other way around

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