Suns FO Should be Embarrassed

[MaoTosiFanClub]

that team would have demolished people.

The only question is if that is enough talent to overcome D'Antoni's shoddy coaching come playoff time. It's a very interesting topic though.

 

[mojorizen7]

Nash, JJ, Marion, Amare, KT

Could we have done it if they kept them together?

that team would have demolished people.

Extract D'Antoni from that equation and yes...i think it's a team to be feared.

 

[Bufalay]

Chandler would have solved Amare's deficiencies. I strongly advocated trying to get him on here for a few seasons. Amare without Chandler is what we saw. Amare with Chandler is championship material....

Too bad they hate each other.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Too bad they hate each other.

That stuff in the press matters so little. They would have done their thing. That's not to say there has never been real internal dissent and conflict on any NBA team, but let's not get overblown about Chandler and Stoudemire. Besides, it's a moot point now anyway.... unless DAL is trying to acquire Stoudemire or NYK is trying to acquire Chandler....

 

[SirStefan32]

EDIT:

Nevermind, Mojo beats me to making a comment about D'Antoni.

 

[mojorizen7]

EDIT:

Nevermind, Mojo beats me to making a comment about D'Antoni.

Lol....go ahead dude....let it out. You'll feel better.

 

[boisesuns]

that team would have demolished people.

Not to mention a bench of:

Barbosa
Bell
Steven Hunter
Jimmy Jackson
Outlaw
McCarty

Decent off the bench production, and a very capable starting 5

 

[JCSunsfan]

M

Sh*t. Nash-JJ-Marion-Amare-KT with James Jones, Q, House, and Barbosa would have contended this year. I still think DAL would have beaten them because of Chandler, but then again, KT was decent at keeping opposing 5s off the glass while grabbing about 8 rips himself....

Not with Dantoni as coach. Dallas had a balanced team on offense and defense. The no d teams of mike d are flawed too much to win it all.

 

[Covert Rain]

M

Not with Dantoni as coach. Dallas had a balanced team on offense and defense. The no d teams of mike d are flawed too much to win it all.

Agree. That has been my take forever. D'Antoni didn't care enough about defense. One hallmark of all his teams is they can't get stops when it mattered. Also, in the Finals coaches have to be able to make adjustments in game. D'Antoni is famous for not being able to do that. Usually his game changes come next game.

 

[SweetD]

I do not believe anything will change with the Suns. Winning a championship hasn't been a priority since we started selling draft picks for cash.

When the franchise stops being profitable, Sarver may just move the team to San Diego rather than sell it.

I guess your right look at all those rookies the Mavs drafted in the past five years on a championship team. Unless you suck for 3-4 years and have top 10 picks every year you can not build a team through the draft. (ala OKC/Portland/Bulls) or if you suck really bad and get a top 3 pick.

 

[sunsfan88]

I look forward to the Suns contending for the #1 overall pick within the next 2-3 years.

 

[tobiazz]

I guess your right look at all those rookies the Mavs drafted in the past five years on a championship team. Unless you suck for 3-4 years and have top 10 picks every year you can not build a team through the draft. (ala OKC/Portland/Bulls) or if you suck really bad and get a top 3 pick.

They drafted Dirk Nowitski, without whom their moves in the last five years would not have mattered. They already drafted their star.

 

[Cheesebeef]

They drafted Dirk Nowitski, without whom their moves in the last five years would not have mattered. They already drafted their star.

not to mention they drafted (can't remember his name, the PG from Wisconsin) who they used to trade for Jason Kidd who led the them to the Finals.

still can't believe we just gave Amare up... FOR NOTHING.

what an incredibly stupid ass move that combined with the non-move of him at the trading deadline. if they didn't trade him there, they should have committed, it's that simple. otherwise, if you know you're going to lose him (and if they didn't know he wouldn't take a "what if" deal they're freaking ********) you get something for him... period.

 

[Suns_fan69]

not to mention they drafted (can't remember his name, the PG from Wisconsin) who they used to trade for Jason Kidd who led the them to the Finals.

Devin Harris?

They really fleeced NJ, Harris has been a bust since showing so much promise with Dallas.

Edit: I guess he wasn't that big of a bust for NJ, it landed them DWilliams

 

[Mainstreet]

not to mention they drafted (can't remember his name, the PG from Wisconsin) who they used to trade for Jason Kidd who led the them to the Finals.

Thinking this is Devin Harris.

still can't believe we just gave Amare up... FOR NOTHING.

what an incredibly stupid ass move that combined with the non-move of him at the trading deadline. if they didn't trade him there, they should have committed, it's that simple. otherwise, if you know you're going to lose him (and if they didn't know he wouldn't take a "what if" deal they're freaking ********) you get something for him... period.

The Suns FO even had to be told how to get a trade exception for Amare. Yes, the Suns FO is really weak to put it politely.

 

[Folster]

not to mention they drafted (can't remember his name, the PG from Wisconsin) who they used to trade for Jason Kidd who led the them to the Finals.

still can't believe we just gave Amare up... FOR NOTHING.

I've said this before, but we tried to trade him multiple times. He was practically in Golden State until they renegged. That package would have netted us Curry, Biedrins, Wright, and filler.

what an incredibly stupid ass move that combined with the non-move of him at the trading deadline. if they didn't trade him there, they should have committed, it's that simple. otherwise, if you know you're going to lose him (and if they didn't know he wouldn't take a "what if" deal they're freaking ********) you get something for him... period.

Don't forget, if we would have traded him at the deadline we wouldn't have got to see the spectacular sweep of the Spurs and deep playoff run. While not a championship, it was extremely satisfying.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I've said this before, but we tried to trade him multiple times. He was practically in Golden State until they renegged. That package would have netted us Curry, Biedrins, Wright, and filler.

but then we did nothing during the season.

Don't forget, if we would have traded him at the deadline we wouldn't have got to see the spectacular sweep of the Spurs and deep playoff run. While not a championship, it was extremely satisfying.

unfortunately, that memory doesn't make me warm a night when I think about the long winter this team will seemingly be in for... well... ever.

 

[sunsfan88]

New Charlotte Bobcats general manager Rich Cho will work under Rod Higgins, who now has the title president of basketball operations.

"One of the worst things you can do in this league is be a middle-of-the-road team - in the playoffs one year, out the next," Cho said Tuesday at an introductory news conference at Time Warner Cable Arena.

"One of the tough things about a middle-of-the-road team is you never get really good draft picks. That makes it hard to have sustained success. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take two steps forward.

"I'm a big proponent of accumulating assets," Cho said. "That's how we did it in Oklahoma City."

Is Sarver taking notes?

 

[Matt L]

The Suns ownership and front office suck. What does that have to do with the Mavs winning the championship?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I guess your right look at all those rookies the Mavs drafted in the past five years on a championship team. Unless you suck for 3-4 years and have top 10 picks every year you can not build a team through the draft. (ala OKC/Portland/Bulls) or if you suck really bad and get a top 3 pick.

I respectfully disagree. The issue here is an organizational philosophy. The Mavs see young players as assets to acquire veterans. We see them as ways to pay shareholders.

But to make us all vomit...

2004: Pick #7

Traded to the Bulls for future pick and cash. Players on the board: Andre Igodula, Luol Deng, Al Jefferson, Andres Biedrins, Josh Smith,

2005: Pick #21

Traded to NY along with Q for Kurt Thomas (Saved Money). Players on the board: Nate Robinson (Suns Selection), David Lee, Linas Kleeza, Monta Ellis, Andray Blatche

Pick #57

Sold for Cash to Orlando. Players on the Board: Marcin Gortat (Suns Selection)

2006: Pick #21

Traded (along with another first rounder) for cash.

Players on the board Rajon Rondo (Suns pick), Kyle Lowrie, Shannon Brown, Jordan Farmar

Pick #27

Traded for Cash

Players on the board: Sergio Rodriguez (Suns pick), Daniel Gibson, Paul Millsap,

2007 Draft

Traded for Cash

Players on the board: Rudy Fernandez (Suns Pick), Aaron Brooks, Glen Davis, Marc Gasol

2008 Draft

Pick #24

Traded along with Kurt Thomas for 2nd round pick (aka cash)

Players on the board: Serge Ibaka (selected here), Nicolas Batum, George Hill

More fun...

If the Suns just kept their picks instead of getting cash or to not pay cash:

C - Gortat
PF - Ibaka
SF - Igudala
SG - Fernandez
PG - Rondo

That team would really give the Suns starters a run for their money.

For real fun, you can play the "Hindsight game" to make your starting 5.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Is Sarver taking notes?

It is a total myth that late round draft picks don't matter. Look at whom the Suns could have had...

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I respectfully disagree. The issue here is an organizational philosophy. The Mavs see young players as assets to acquire veterans. We see them as ways to pay shareholders.

But to make us all vomit...

2004: Pick #7

Traded to the Bulls for future pick and cash. Players on the board: Andre Igodula, Luol Deng, Al Jefferson, Andres Biedrins, Josh Smith,

2005: Pick #21

Traded to NY along with Q for Kurt Thomas (Saved Money). Players on the board: Nate Robinson (Suns Selection), David Lee, Linas Kleeza, Monta Ellis, Andray Blatche

Pick #57

Sold for Cash to Orlando. Players on the Board: Marcin Gortat (Suns Selection)

2006: Pick #21

Traded (along with another first rounder) for cash.

Players on the board Rajon Rondo (Suns pick), Kyle Lowrie, Shannon Brown, Jordan Farmar

Pick #27

Traded for Cash

Players on the board: Sergio Rodriguez (Suns pick), Daniel Gibson, Paul Millsap,

2007 Draft

Traded for Cash

Players on the board: Rudy Fernandez (Suns Pick), Aaron Brooks, Glen Davis, Marc Gasol

2008 Draft

Pick #24

Traded along with Kurt Thomas for 2nd round pick (aka cash)

Players on the board: Serge Ibaka (selected here), Nicolas Batum, George Hill

More fun...

If the Suns just kept their picks instead of getting cash or to not pay cash:

C - Gortat
PF - Ibaka
SF - Igudala
SG - Fernandez
PG - Rondo

That team would really give the Suns starters a run for their money.

For real fun, you can play the "Hindsight game" to make your starting 5.

Ugh.

I'll play:

Rondo-Iguodala-Smith-Ibaka-Gasol

DEFENSE like a m'fer!!!!

That team would also get 20+ppg from Iggy and Smith meaning that Rondo would average 15apg....

 

[az jam]

The last good player that the Suns drafted and kept was Amare in 2002. This is simply pathetic.

 

[Mainstreet]

The last good player that the Suns drafted and kept was Amare in 2002. This is simply pathetic.

This thought is what I use to temper my enthusiasm for the upcoming draft.

 

[Folster]

Ugh.

I'll play:

Rondo-Iguodala-Smith-Ibaka-Gasol

DEFENSE like a m'fer!!!!

That team would also get 20+ppg from Iggy and Smith meaning that Rondo would average 15apg....

How did you get Iggy and Smith on the same team? It would have been one or the other as they were both in the same draft.