Suns have 6th pick and 32nd pick in 2019 draft.

[Krangodnzr]

Okay but do we really want someone that disappears or disappoints as he did if it's solely because he isn't the top dog? There may well be other reasons he struggled and I'm not ruling him out as our best option but I was unimpressed when I watched him play, not that I paid him much attention (I only suffered through Duke games because Zion was so intriguing to watch).

IMO Reddish got plenty of opportunities inside the offense so I don't know if that's really the issue, he certainly got a lot more minutes and chances than your average freshman (even compared to other highly recruited freshmen). As a comparison, his 30 minutes and 12 attempts per game is 3 minutes less than Ayton got in his only year but even with the extra minutes Deandre only averaged .9 more attempts per game.

I'm not an expert on the 2018-2019 Duke Blue Devils basketball team, but from everything I've read, the flow of their offense was severely disrupted for any player not named Zion Williamson and RJ Barrett.

The Suns are in a really crappy spot draft wise, as we are all well aware. IMO they basically have to pick between guys that will likely be role players in the NBA or guys with unrealized potential. Reddish kind of fits both categories.

 

[Hoop Head]

That begs the question, if we bring in just lower down in the draft players, does that signal a possible 6th pick trade already?

Other than last year when we had the #1 pick, it seems like the Suns only bring in players that are projected to go later in the draft, like late 1st and 2nd round players. I think a number of lottery talent will only do workouts with their agent as sort of a solo visit nowadays. That's how everything was handled last year, the top talent didn't work out together. Even when we had #4 when we took Jackson, the players projected to be taken at #4 were all brought in on their own.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm not an expert on the 2018-2019 Duke Blue Devils basketball team, but from everything I've read, the flow of their offense was severely disrupted for any player not named Zion Williamson and RJ Barrett.

The Suns are in a really crappy spot draft wise, as we are all well aware. IMO they basically have to pick between guys that will likely be role players in the NBA or guys with unrealized potential. Reddish kind of fits both categories.

Yeah, I'm not an expert on Duke either, far from it, but from what I watched the flow of their offense was frequently disrupted for any player not named Barrett. But it's not like it was every moment of every play, there were enough opportunities for everyone even though the situation wasn't ideal. Barrett put himself in front of the team often but Jones, limited as he was, was more of a team player and he handled the ball quite a bit too.

If we work him out and decide he's our guy it won't surprise or disappoint me but I feel that way about a lot of the potential prospects.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here are some interviews from today's pre-draft workouts.

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Does Grant Williams know how to interview or what.

 

[Hoop Head]

Here are some interviews from today's pre-draft workouts

Was coming here to post some of those also.

Here is an 8 minute James Jones interview....

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[Mainstreet]

Have to like Monty Williams leading workouts.

 

[1Sun]

It shouldn't and it hasn't in the past. We've brought in prospects whose pre-draft ratings have them going almost anywhere from top 5 to undrafted with no apparent connection to where we draft. And that is how it should be, we should be prepared for the possibility of trading up, down, out or standing pat. Plus you never know who will drop from mid round to the 2nd or climb from the teens to the top 5 and so on. I have no idea what we'll do and we may well have decided to not pick at 6 but we have 36 prospects coming in and they range all over the place.

But why work out a bunch of guys who have zero chance of being drafted anywhere? That is how you end up with awful picks like Davon Reed and Taylor Griffin.

 

[AzStevenCal]

But why work out a bunch of guys who have zero chance of being drafted anywhere? That is how you end up with awful picks like Davon Reed and Taylor Griffin.

Knowledge is a good thing. And while I'm against taking someone with a history of certain types of injuries, that history notwithstanding I think it was a very smart pick. But he had marginal NBA speed and his next knee injury deprived him of even that. We had a brief glimpse into what he might become in his short run in Summer League.

 

[1Sun]

Knowledge is a good thing. And while I'm against taking someone with a history of certain types of injuries, that history notwithstanding I think it was a very smart pick. But he had marginal NBA speed and his next knee injury deprived him of even that. We had a brief glimpse into what he might become in his short run in Summer League.

Reed wasn't all that good in Summer League, even. Bell, Dillon Brooks or Ojeleye was the obvious pick there, but McD fell in love with a workout prospect that was a fringe candidate at best in terms of being drafted.

I'd rather the workouts be limited to legitimate draft candidates.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Reed wasn't all that good in Summer League, even. Bell, Dillon Brooks or Ojeleye was the obvious pick there, but McD fell in love with a workout prospect that was a fringe candidate at best in terms of being drafted.

I'd rather the workouts be limited to legitimate draft candidates.

We reportedly passed on Bell and Brooks because of injury histories, we should have passed on Reed for the same reason. But I disagree about his potential, he's a half step away from being a very good 3 and D player in the NBA. If by some chance he should get that half step back he'll probably end up on the Spurs and we'll all wonder where his game came from. Regardless, I'd rather have Bell but none of them really have much game at the NBA level.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

In Reddish's defense, few alpha dogs are used to going to place were TWO really good players take over and leave you scraps in a short amount of time.

He didn't shoot well, but he has the profile of someone who will be a good shooter.

I'm not too hot on White, he looks a bit too out of control and when I ask myself if I think he's going to be a really good player, I just don't see it.

The Suns don't necessarily have to hit a homerun with this pick, it might be smarter to focus on grabbing a good role player since the team lacks role players. Hunter or Reddish fit that bill. Trade away Warren and Bucks pick for a veteran PG.

Reddish was potential unrealized in high school. And he was potential unrealized at Duke. I mean, coming into duke people already spoke about how his stroke was so pure and his free throw shooting so good he would eventually be a good three point shooter . . . but wasn’t. He’s the epitome of believe what he’s showing you imo.

 

[Sunburn]

Reddish was potential unrealized in high school. And he was potential unrealized at Duke. I mean, coming into duke people already spoke about how his stroke was so pure and his free throw shooting so good he would eventually be a good three point shooter . . . but wasn’t. He’s the epitome of believe what he’s showing you imo.

Was Reddish underwhelming in high school? Why was he such a highly regarded recruit then?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Was Reddish underwhelming in high school? Why was he such a highly regarded recruit then?

I think his numbers were what you’d expect for a highly recruited kid (otherwise how does he end up a top 5 recruit at Duke), but I recall preseason articles that questioned if he would disappear . . . and that’s exactly what happened. So those comments had to have some basis in some facts. Maybe from AAU? Somewhere else?

 

[JCSunsfan]

Gambo says the Lakers are really interested in Reddish at #4.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Gambo says the Lakers are really interested in Reddish at #4.

Good

 

[Sunburn]

I've cooled a bit on White. Brandon Knight and Coby White's college stats are almost identical. Ugh I have a headache.

 

[Sunburn]

Could Deandre Hunter play primarily at power forward? I've seen comparisons to Mikal Bridges but with more strength. I would not mind at all having a power forward version of Bridges.

 

[GatorAZ]

Could Deandre Hunter play primarily at power forward? I've seen comparisons to Mikal Bridges but with more strength. I would not mind at all having a power forward version of Bridges.

He’s more intriguing than Clarke because he can shoot it. Like Clarke he’s older than the other considerations at #6. He redshirted so was basically a true junior last year.

 

[GatorAZ]

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[Mainstreet]

Here are today's pre-draft workouts for first session.

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[1Sun]

Here are today's pre-draft workouts for first session.

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More wastes of time.

 

[Yuma]

Cody Martin is the only guy I know anything about since he is from UNR. You guys don't know how SMALL a school UNR is! I find it absolutely amazing they have raised their basketball program to a national level. That said, after seeing James Jones video, I see why they brought Cody in. If the Suns are stressing smarts, Cody is a very smart, and high quality individual. I never heard anything negative about him, and believe me, Northern Nevada is a small place. Rumors fly. Also, watching him play for UNR, and play hurt and be effective, I was really impressed with him. My only knock is obviously he doesn't look like an NBA player. He will have to get stronger. If I were to fit him to an ideal program, he's the type of guy Coach Poppovich would have in San Antonio. Cody plays a thinking man's game. In the old days, we would have called him a gym rat.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is the Suns second pre-draft workout group for today.

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[Phrazbit]

Bol Bol is going to be a bust, even ignoring the medical red flags (such as guys his size having a history of debilitating foot problems... and he already has foot problems).

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He is as imposing as puff pastry. He gets shoved around by totally unskilled college players, his size means nothing as plays big and small simply dance right around him. He can't box out, he actively avoids contact on screens.

This idea that he will be able to play PF in the NBA is a fantasy. A "stretch 4" who can't set a screen, gets shoved out of position in the high post and can't crash the boards is worthless. If his three point shooting translates I expect it will be the only thing he will be able to do.

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[Mainstreet]

Bol Bol is going to be a bust, even ignoring the medical red flags (such as guys his size having a history of debilitating foot problems... and he already has foot problems).

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He is as imposing as puff pastry. He gets shoved around by totally unskilled college players, his size means nothing as plays big and small simply dance right around him. He can't box out, he actively avoids contact on screens.

This idea that he will be able to play PF in the NBA is a fantasy. A "stretch 4" who can't set a screen, gets shoved out of position in the high post and can't crash the boards is worthless. If his three point shooting translates I expect it will be the only thing he will be able to do.

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The video links are not showing up until "Post Reply" is pressed.