Suns @ Mavericks 4-9-19: Season Finale

[Mainstreet]

On Tuesday the Suns close their season against the Mavericks.

Mavericks (32-48) beat the Grizzlies on Sunday 129-127 in overtime. They have won four of their last ten games. After the Suns game they have one more game left to play against the Spurs.

Suns (19-62) lost to the Rockets on Sunday 149-113. They are 2-8 over their last ten games.

The game will be televised on FSAZ with a 5:30 p.m. Arizona start time.

Hopefully better times are ahead next season.

 

[Mainstreet]

Warren will miss the final game of the season against the Mavericks.


Evan Sidery‏ @esidery



T.J. Warren has officially been ruled out of tomorrow’s finale in Dallas. After missing the final 33 games of the season with ankle soreness, Warren wound up five more three-point attempts short of earning an extra $250K.


10:44 AM - 8 Apr 2019

 

[Mainstreet]

Holmes is questionable for the Dallas game.


Duane Rankin‏ @DuaneRankin


Richaun Holmes (ankle) questionable for Tuesday at Dallas.

Holmes only one of six injured #Suns to make trip. So Deandre Ayton (ankle) is out.

Devin Booker (ankle), Kelly Oubre Jr. (thumb) and Tyler Johnson (knee) are shut down. TJ Warren (ankle) hasn't played since Jan. 22.

 

[Mainstreet]

TJ Warren will fall short of contract incentives for 3-point shots by only five. The tweet says attempts but I wonder if it is 3-point shots made.


Bob Young‏Verified account @BobYoungTHI


Bob Young Retweeted Gina Mizell


And TJ Warren will fall five 3-point field goal attempts shy of a $250,000 contract incentive bonus.


Bob Young added,



Gina MizellVerified account @ginamizell

Per the #Suns’ injury report, Richaun Holmes (sprained ankle) remains questionable to play in tomorrow’s finale vs. Dallas. He has missed the past two games. Deandre Ayton (sprained ankle) and T.J. Warren (ankle soreness) remain out and are not on this final road trip.

12:19 PM - 8 Apr 2019

 

[Chaplin]

Good riddance to this season.

 

[sunsfan88]

Dirk Nowitzki’s last game against the Suns.

I’ll miss guys like him and Duncan and their “team-first” attitude.

One hell of a career and first ballot HOFer.

 

[Finito]

That run that Dirk had to the championship was one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen in sports. It was the ultimate get on my back run.

Took down the Heat with the big 3 and had was just surrounded by good role players Jason Terry, Tyson Chandler, JJ Barrera.

At the same time this in my opinion is the low point in Lebron’s career and stuff like this is why he will never be the GOAT.

 

[Hoop Head]

At the same time this in my opinion is the low point in Lebron’s career and stuff like this is why he will never be the GOAT.

Hopefully that is not talked about next year. I'm not sure how any analyst can make the GOAT claim after this season. I know MJ had his Wizard years but that was quite different than Lebron choosing to sign in LA. He left the best team in the East to go West and couldn't make the playoffs. A lot of people talked about Lebron making 8 consecutive finals only because he was in the East and he proved that, in a way, with his departure.

 

[slinslin]

Hopefully that is not talked about next year. I'm not sure how any analyst can make the GOAT claim after this season. I know MJ had his Wizard years but that was quite different than Lebron choosing to sign in LA. He left the best team in the East to go West and couldn't make the playoffs. A lot of people talked about Lebron making 8 consecutive finals only because he was in the East and he proved that, in a way, with his departure.

Lebron went to one of the worst teams in the league in one of the strongest conferences ever and they missed the playoffs basically because Lebron was injured.

nonsense

MJ didn't win with the Wizards, he also didn't win with Chicago for a few years.

 

[sunsfan88]

Hopefully that is not talked about next year. I'm not sure how any analyst can make the GOAT claim after this season. I know MJ had his Wizard years but that was quite different than Lebron choosing to sign in LA. He left the best team in the East to go West and couldn't make the playoffs. A lot of people talked about Lebron making 8 consecutive finals only because he was in the East and he proved that, in a way, with his departure.

LeBron in the West (his whole career) would’ve had a career that’s similar to that of someone like Paul George imo.

People don’t realize how easy he had it in the East with absolute crap competition since he entered the league.

 

[slinslin]

LeBron in the West (his whole career) would’ve had a career that’s similar to that of someone like Paul George imo.

People don’t realize how easy he had it in the East with absolute crap competition since he entered the league.

absolutely absurd comment

you can't be serious

 

[Hoop Head]

Lebron went to one of the worst teams in the league in one of the strongest conferences ever and they missed the playoffs basically because Lebron was injured.

nonsense

MJ didn't win with the Wizards, he also didn't win with Chicago for a few years.

The Lakers won 2 more games with Lebron this year. The Lakers were not one of the worst teams in the league last year, they were viewed as an up and coming team with a bright future and everyone predicted no less than a playoff run with the addition of Lebron.

When did Jordan lose with the Bulls? 1990? So before he ever won a title. The only year he played where Chicago didn't win the title is when he returned in March and played the final 17 games and they lost in the 2nd round to the Magic. Jordan only played in 17 games that year though, you can't blame him for that. How did he come back from that? By leading the Bulls to another 3 peat.

Then he retired again, did not play for 3 full seasons, and made a return at 38 years old on a Wizards team that were one of the worst teams in the league, having won 19 games the previous year, and he only played in 60 games during his comeback year, where the Wizards won 37 games. MJ at 38 and 3 years removed from playing in the NBA is different than Lebron going to the finals last year in the East and joining a Laker team in the West and only helping them win 2 more games than the year before. MJ helped the Wizards win 18 more games, that alone should tell a story but after being out of the league for so long it's different than what Lebron did.

 

[Mainstreet]

Dirk Nowitzki’s last game against the Suns.

I’ll miss guys like him and Duncan and their “team-first” attitude.

One hell of a career and first ballot HOFer.

Dallas is classy until the end. Wish Steve Nash could have gone out the same way in Phoenix.

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[Chaplin]

absolutely absurd comment

you can't be serious

Why don't you say something substantial instead of just attack? You've become a caricature. Want to talk about absurd? You post something absurd at least once a day yourself.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Why don't you say something substantial instead of just attack? You've become a caricature. Want to talk about absurd? You post something absurd at least once a day yourself.

Not sure what else you can say to that though. If someone really thinks that LeBron would have had a similar career to Paul George (who was in the East much of his career) if he had been in the west his entire career is a bit mind-boggling. I do not even know if I have a starting point to argue against it.

 

[Chaplin]

Not sure what else you can say to that though. If someone really thinks that LeBron would have had a similar career to Paul George (who was in the East much of his career) if he had been in the west his entire career is a bit mind-boggling. I do not even know if I have a starting point to argue against it.

Do you have a starting point to argue FOR it?

 

[Hoop Head]

Not sure what else you can say to that though. If someone really thinks that LeBron would have had a similar career to Paul George (who was in the East much of his career) if he had been in the west his entire career is a bit mind-boggling. I do not even know if I have a starting point to argue against it.

That's really not that hard to do though. I think the basic meaning behind saying he'd be Paul George is a nice player without a title to his name and had Lebron played in the West throughout his career then there is a chance that's true. No going to Miami to team with his buddies and win 2 titles and no comeback to Cleveland to get an easy road to the finals. I think it might have been more accurate to pick someone like James Harden but the basics are Lebron would have received individual accolades but no titles had he not played in the East. He's Durant before running off to the Warriors. If you don't think that's true then make the case for when he would have won titles and made it out of a continuously stacked Western Conference.

I think his best chance would have been the year he actually won his first title in Miami, 2012, I think, when the Heat met OKC in the finals after falling apart the year before and being outplayed by Jason Terry in the finals against Dirk's Mavericks.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Who knows whether Lebron would have won titles playing in the West? But he was the best player in the game when he was in the East and that would have remained true even playing his prime in the West. Maybe he'd have a little less support for greatest of all time but I don't think Paul George will be even viewed as a top 500 player ten years from now whereas Lebron would have easily stayed in the Top 10 IMO.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Lebron went to one of the worst teams in the league in one of the strongest conferences ever and they missed the playoffs basically because Lebron was injured.

nonsense

MJ didn't win with the Wizards, he also didn't win with Chicago for a few years.

one of the worst teams in the league? They won 35 games last year, with a lot of injuries. Having the 11th worst record in the league is hardly "one of the worst teams in the league". But don't let facts get in your way.

 

[95pro]

Lebron went to one of the worst teams in the league in one of the strongest conferences ever and they missed the playoffs basically because Lebron was injured.

nonsense

MJ didn't win with the Wizards, he also didn't win with Chicago for a few years.

He was what, 40 years old??

 

[95pro]

LeBron would still have had to face the all the teams the Warriors went through, and then still face the warriors. Lebron wouldn't have so many consecutive final appearances if he'd been in the west just due to that fact. And how many finals has he won compare to how many appearances? That correlation of finals won to appearances is a reflection of how many times he'd come out of the west.

 

[Ronin]

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[AzStevenCal]

LeBron would still have had to face the all the teams the Warriors went through, and then still face the warriors. Lebron wouldn't have so many consecutive final appearances if he'd been in the west just due to that fact. And how many finals has he won compare to how many appearances? That correlation of finals won to appearances is a reflection of how many times he'd come out of the west.

You're probably right and if that had been the comment that started this conversation, I doubt there would have been very many arguing against it. It's the Paul George comparison that rang the starting bell.

I would also point out that the reason he'd succeed less in the West is due to all the top talent being out here and wouldn't that suggest he'd end up playing next to better players?

 

[Mainstreet]

Latest injury update. Holmes is still out.


Duane Rankin‏ @DuaneRankin 2h2 hours ago


#Suns will play season finale tonight against Dallas without Richaun Holmes, who sprained his left ankle against Utah.

No Deandre Ayton (ankle), Devin Booker (ankle), TJ Warren (ankle), Kelly Oubre Jr. (thumb) or Tyler Johnson (knee) as they didn't make the trip.

 

[Hoop Head]

No Deandre Ayton (ankle), Devin Booker (ankle), TJ Warren (ankle), Kelly Oubre Jr. (thumb) or Tyler Johnson (knee) as they didn't make the trip.

Call me old fashioned or say my expectations are out of whack but I think injured players should be with the team for this game. I can see why they didn't make the whole trip but this is the final game of the season, everyone should be there to cheer on those playing. With all of them out I doubt it was a player decision so I don't blame them for it but still doesn't seem right.