Suns Name Lindsay Hunter Interim Head Coach

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Firing Blanks is the only move the Suns could make that would give me hope.

Agree, next to changing ownership which would make me the happiest. I do not have a clue where Blanks has earned his credibility than other than the time he spent in scouting for the Spurs. Gregg Popovich makes that organization spin. Blanks reminds me of the man behind the curtain in the movie, "The Wizard of Oz."
 

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Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom and the Suns are no exception. One thing is certain, if they continue to suck for a few years, I can't imagine Sarver wanting to hold onto the team just to lose lots of money. This all may be a blessing in disguise.

Oh please, God!
 

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I like Lindsey Hunter for the job, though, I agree Blanks choosing him puts a sour note on it. He was not only a good defender, he was the leader of the defense for the Pistons back in the day... the kind of player the Suns have never had. I hope they wind up making him permanent... well, permanent in the manner of NBA coaches. With some standing in the organization he may be able to stand up to Blanks when the latter's about to make another awful player decision. In Hunter's mind that would be anyone who is a poor defender (I hope).

He's never coached a day in his life. I'm sure he'll be great!
 

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Something to remember... Babby's contract expires after this season and my bet is he's leaving. If he leaves as I believe he will, you can bet Blanks is gone too. Sarver will likely replace both before the draft as well a new coach or Hunter will be kept on.
 

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Didn't we just have one a few years back in Terry Porter? Didn't really help much defensively, as far as I recall. But I doubt Hunter's tenure as head coach will be much longer than Porter's.

Btw, I don't think that being a good defensive player necessarily makes you a good defensive coach. Playing good defensive is not the same as being able to teach others and get others to play good defense. Hunter has not shown that ability yet. He hasn't even shown an ability to be a head coach, having only been an assistant for less than three months.

I am not surprised the other assistants are upset and may quit. Hunter hasn't earned a promotion yet and there were others more deserving. But I guess he must have endeared himself to Blanks somehow, although I doubt it was with his coaching ability.

I was glad when we hired Porter, too, for the same reason, though it didn't last long once we saw what he was doing with the team. I don't remember too much about the teams D then except we were pretty hopeless against the pick & roll - which was always a weakness for Shaq. Porter's biggest problem was trying to turn Nash into a conventional point guard and he had Shaq playing the high post. Bleh, not even sensible.

Hunter does not have the problem of trying to adapt to Nash... and with having to jump right in the middle he's not likely to try to do too much with the offensive scheme.

Its not clear yet what he is being asked to do - I wouldn't be surprised if part of it is playing the youngsters a good bit as we've been hoping for. But I also wouldn't be surprised if the FO wants him to win more games and put butts in the seats. What I'm hoping for is to see players who don't execute their defensive assignments spending lots of time on the pine.
 

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our FO is just looking for a yes-man, hunter it is
 

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Clean house. Hire Phil Jackson as the Gm and give him carte blanche
 

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It appears that Igor Kokoskov and Hunter were together on the Pistons 2004-07, Igor as an assistant coach and Lindsey as a player. They should have a good idea whether they can work together and they're not a bad fit with Kokoskov specializing in offense and Hunter in defense. If they don't get on I suspect Igor will join the exodus - and may have already for all I know. On the other hand, if they get on, we may have a good nucleus for the coaching staff in the new era. I have to say that I like the idea of the defensive half of the duo being the head coach.
 
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I want Majerle to remain part of the organization. I wish he never got into coaching.

No I want Majerle to get away from this organization asap. Also Al McCoy and anyone else from the Colangelo days. Let Sarver completely drive this into the ground without these good folk on the Titanic
 

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I am ok with the change. Gentry was a dead man walking and his line ups and use of players were geared toward winning, and this team just needs to play some younger players (Marshall, Johnson, Morris, Garrett and even a little Beasley) to see if they are worth keeping around for the rebuild.

Hunter can take the losses since he may not be coaching next year. Who would want to take a Head Coaching job just to loose games and have that on your resume. This is why I think it was a good move, have someone that doesn't really know how to win games and will focus just on developing players.
 

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Bad move

They should have gone with either Turner or Majerle.
 
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$arver screws up again. Two assistants might quit? Amazing. They didn't need to get rid of Gentry, and now might be out three guys on the staff.

What an indictment of the front office and owner.

It will be interesting to see who plays what. Will they 'try to win' or 'play youth'? I'm on the fence and believe that they are going to try and 'win'. In my opinion Gentry wasn't going to have a problem playing youth more down the stretch.

If front office/ownership wants them to play young guys, I don't see how that would be conducive to winning or 'not meeting expectations'. They've made it clear we were not playing to what they insanely think is our talent level, and think the downward trend was a reflection of Gentry. Though they said not all on him.

But how Hunter manages the lineup may indicate it. If they made the change to play young guys because Gentry didn't want to, then expect to see different players starting and being early off the bench to the point where it would be obviously different.

So sad to see this formerly great organization be reduced to the laughing stock it now is.
 

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It will be interesting to see who plays what. Will they 'try to win' or 'play youth'? I'm on the fence and believe that they are going to try and 'win'. In my opinion Gentry wasn't going to have a problem playing youth more down the stretch.
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I don't think there is a big distinction between the two options, mostly because neither is a real option. The Suns can "try" to win all they want, but it won't work with this roster regardless of who plays and who sits. That has been already shown. And they can also play "youth", but the Suns entire roster is relatively young and yet there are no players that are truly worth developing with an eye towards the future. Marshall is the only young player on the roster who has not gotten any playing time, but his stint in the D-League showed that he may not belong in this league at all.

But beyond those two options, there's also the "let's play Beasley a whole lot so that Lance Blanks doesn't look like a complete idiot" option, which I'm guessing, he might have been going for when making the coaching change. I am predicting we'll see Beasley back in regular rotation soon enough, maybe even starting. But not because the Suns are "developing youth" (I don't even think he qualifies, being in his 5th season), but rather, so that he can get his scoring average up to a respectable number (by virtue of number of shots taken) so that Blanks can save some face, everything else be damned.
 

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I expect the Suns to make a trade(s) before the trading deadline and Hunter may have been put in position to be the recipient of these deeds whereas Gentry and possibly the other assistant coaches may have not wanted to be the hatchet man.
 

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I expect the Suns to make a trade(s) before the trading deadline and Hunter may have been put in position to be the recipient of these deeds whereas Gentry and possibly the other assistant coaches may have not wanted to be the hatchet man.
That makes sense. Hunter is a no-commitment-no-experience interim Head Coach who would now add a new level to his resume, albeit with a dysfunctional management team and roster to work with.

It is a step up for him and, I guess, a step down for coaches who have Assistant Coach experience, looking to step up with a team with less long-term problems than the Suns.
 

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That makes sense. Hunter is a no-commitment-no-experience interim Head Coach who would now add a new level to his resume, albeit with a dysfunctional management team and roster to work with.

It is a step up for him and, I guess, a step down for coaches who have Assistant Coach experience, looking to step up with a team with less long-term problems than the Suns.

Bob Young at azcentral in an article dated 1-21-13 thinks Lindsey Hunter will get a contract this summer. As a HC, that seems vague. However, if he does well as an interim HC, who knows.

http://www.azcentral.com/insiders/bobyoung/2013/01/21/the-suns-next-coach/
 

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Bob Young at azcentral in an article dated 1-21-13 thinks Lindsey Hunter will get a contract this summer. As a HC, that seems vague. However, if he does well as an interim HC, who knows.

By what standards can he be judged? Is he supposed to win or lose? If the team goes 15-26 over the second half of the season, does that make him an improvement over Gentry?

I think it's very unlikely that Bob Young has any more insight into these questions than anyone on this board.
 

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Lindsey coudnt get a D league coaching job but leave it to dumb & dumber to hand over the keys to a NBA team. Passing over experience for this clown boggles the mind. Anybody agreeing with this move is just as dense as the Suns decision makers.
 

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By what standards can he be judged? Is he supposed to win or lose? If the team goes 15-26 over the second half of the season, does that make him an improvement over Gentry?

How Hunter handles being interim HC, how players respond to his coaching, if the Suns defensive effort improves and especially if he can get something out of Marshall.

I think it's very unlikely that Bob Young has any more insight into these questions than anyone on this board.

I agree there, but who thinks Hunter will not get an interview when the permanent HC position opens? If Hunter shows the team is making progress as described above, who knows.
 

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I agree there, but who thinks Hunter will not get an interview when the permanent HC position opens? If Hunter shows the team is making progress as described above, who knows.

My point is that whether Hunter is retained won't have anything to do with how the Suns play the second half of this season. The front office already knows what it's going to do; they just haven't tipped their hand yet.
 

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If Babby and more importantly Blanks are gone after the season then I think it's highly unlikely Hunter will be named HC. Hunter probably is the guy if Blanks is retained, but there is no hope for the team if that happens regardless of who the HC is.
 

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I don't think there is a big distinction between the two options, mostly because neither is a real option. The Suns can "try" to win all they want, but it won't work with this roster regardless of who plays and who sits. That has been already shown. And they can also play "youth", but the Suns entire roster is relatively young and yet there are no players that are truly worth developing with an eye towards the future. Marshall is the only young player on the roster who has not gotten any playing time, but his stint in the D-League showed that he may not belong in this league at all.

But beyond those two options, there's also the "let's play Beasley a whole lot so that Lance Blanks doesn't look like a complete idiot" option, which I'm guessing, he might have been going for when making the coaching change. I am predicting we'll see Beasley back in regular rotation soon enough, maybe even starting. But not because the Suns are "developing youth" (I don't even think he qualifies, being in his 5th season), but rather, so that he can get his scoring average up to a respectable number (by virtue of number of shots taken) so that Blanks can save some face, everything else be damned.

See I'm guessing that all of $arver's smartest guys in the rooms are using their moneyball numbers to tell $arver who to sign and how good we should expect to be. That it was $arver who wants us to try to keep winning, because he believes our roster has far more talent than anyone with eyes does. Because certain numbers are telling him so. He's a banker. They make decisions based on things like this.

No basketball knowledge needed to run the team, just follow the computer, and success will follow. Like the banks.

Because no one who actually knows basketball could legitimately expect this team to be a playoff team. One that thinks...maybe it might be possible...with a fan's bias? Sure. Why not.

But real front office people beyond their 'hopes', would realize that it could easily get this bad because the talent was lacking.

I personally GUESS, that $arver thinks we should be winning. That if we make a change, we might turn things around. That we might get close to the playoffs. That he could then sell a turnaround to keep season ticket numbers up. He wants to win because his ego and pocketbook will suffer if we don't win. But his forward vision is shorter than an HFT algorithm on Wall Street.

I think it was Gentry who wanted to play the young guys. He was trying to tell front office that we need to find out what we have for going forward, and in the process probably have a better pick.

I think $arver is scared to bottom out. So they fired the coach that wanted to let that happen.

I may be wrong, but that's how I feel. That $arver would rather in the short term win meaningless games then do what's best for the franchise long term. That he needed a coach would try to continue to win. That his 'numbers' are telling them that we should be winning, and those numbers can't be wrong (yeah right). If Gentry couldn't and/or wouldn't do it, he'd find someone that would be stupid enough to try. Because his metrics are right....or so he thinks. Doesn't anyone remember all that talk about them becoming the morons with idiot equations? How they were looking forward to being a better team using these things? Forget basketball knowledge, follow the BCS computers!

Maybe it's the opposite. Maybe it's a totally different reason. But all the background is there for this type of decision. Banker. Idiots' metrics. Gentry talking about playing young guys in the media.

I just don't see Gentry talking about playing young guys if it was something he didn't want to do. He simply wouldn't bring it up.

It will be obvious if it was Gentry's lack of playing young guys, since all we'd see would be the likes of Marshall, Morris, Wes Johnson, etc starting going forward. If it's the same sort of lineups as before, I think we'll have our answers. Obviously a couple of tweaks will happen, but that 1st game will be telling.
 
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Sheesh, this does look like Sarver has put B & B on notice and they wanted to do something that could possibly turn things around in the second half of the season. The easiest shake up in the NBA is to fire the coach, and they may have replaced him with Hunter because he's cheap and the closest thing to an outsider. The only good news in this scenario is that it means Sarver is panicky, so will be looking to bail soon (hope, hope).

It must really hurt a banker when he can't get the government to bail him out of the mess he created.
 

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Dear lord. Hunter?!?!? I was hoping this team would try and start repairing it's reputation around the league. Not further damaging it.

Promoting this guy with no experience over some other more seniored guys does the EXACT opposite. So, great, not only do upper tier free agents scoff at the Suns, now any kind of coach worth his salt and a veteran is going to say screw that. They screw over senior coaches.

It very well could be they intend to purge the staff no matter what at the end of the season. It could be they did this so they don't give false hope to one of the assistants that they really have a shot at the end of the season. Nobody cares of Hunter is pissed off he didn't get a real shot. However, if you do it to one of the more veteran guys it might look bad.

There might be some method to this madness but either way, IMO you make this FO look foolish for hiring someone with no experience and for passing over some more veterans guys. I have to believe this FO is not this stupid to actually piss off the more senior guys and hiring Hunter thinking he is the future.

I know HUGE LEAP of faith for this owner and FO.
 
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Dear lord. Hunter?!?!? I was hoping this team would try and start repairing it's reputation around the league. Not further damaging it.

Promoting this guy with no experience over some other more seniored guys does the EXACT opposite. So, great, not only do upper tier free agents scoff at the Suns, now any kind of coach worth his salt and a veteran is going to say screw that. They screw over senior coaches.

It very well could be the intend to purge the staff no matter what the end of the season. It could be they did this so they don't give false hope to one of the assistants that they really have a shot at the end of the season. Nobody cares of Hunter is pissed off he didn't get a real shot. However, if you do it to one of the more veteran guys it might look bad.

There might be some method to this madness but either way, IMO you make this FO look foolish for hiring someone with no experience and for passing over some more veterans guys. I have to believe this FO is not this stupid to actually piss off the more senior guys and hiring Hunter thinking he is the future.

I know HUGE LEAP of faith for this owner and FO.

Babby himself was a huge leap of faith. A player agent with no front office NBA experience instantly becoming the head and mouthpiece of an entire organization--and not just ANY organization--one that has a pretty diverse legacy, probably the biggest you can have while not winning a title.

Ironically, the guy I think is the real problem (Blanks) is the one with the MOST experience out of everybody!
 

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