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Bledsoe just saved himself from my wrath with that steal and dish to Dragic. The force up the middle right before wasn't necessary.
 
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Bledsoe just saved himself from my wrath with that steal and dish to Dragic. The force up the middle right before wasn't necessary.

He has done it at least twice tonight.
 

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oh man...that was an AWFUL BAILOUT FOUL.
 

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looks like we're not going to get any help from Miami who looks to be wilting in Memphis.
 
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No technical on Morrow?
 

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Rivers can just push his arm down on shoulder Bledsoe who blows by him so he can block that, huh?
 
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Plumlee in the game almost until almost the end. This has to be a huge confidence boost for him.
 

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1/2 FTs to ice the game.

man...just can't do anything easy here.
 

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wasn't pretty, but I'll take the W.

It's insane that it might take 50 wins just to get the 8 seed. That's redonkulous!
 
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Anyone notice about when Green got the technical, Hornacek was yelling at someone behind the Suns bench?
 

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that freaking Laker loss is killing me!!!!!!
 

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No, no, no, that's not what I am suggesting. I am suggesting that the Suns are simply not a good team, so somebody scoring 15 points is a big deal. Replace Bledsoe with any good scorer and result is the same. It has nothing to do with Bledsoe. It is because Suns are just not a very good team and they don't have a lot of scorers on the team.

We aren't a good team, we only win because several of our players score enough points??? Isn't that basically what you're saying?

We've won almost 92% of our games when Bledsoe has scored 15 points. If you're right and it says nothing about Eric then we are in fact a very good team because finding a 15 point per game scorer isn't all that hard to do. And if that's going to be all it takes to win 75 games per season we're in great shape for the future.
 

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Give the Grizzlies credit. It looks like they're going to rise to the occasion against the Heat.
 
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I though he was just screaming at Green...he was really pissed

I don't know because he was looking over his shoulder. I thought he might be yelling at someone in the stands.
 

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We've won almost 92% of our games when Bledsoe has scored 15 points. If you're right and it says nothing about Eric then we are in fact a very good team because finding a 15 point per game scorer isn't all that hard to do. And if that's going to be all it takes to win 75 games per season we're in great shape for the future.

You're interpreting the statistic incorrectly. If the Suns are 20-2 when Bledose scores 15+, then they're below .500 when he fails to reach that mark -- even worse than when he's not in uniform. The conclusion is that Bledsoe needs to score to be a positive difference-maker. If he has a good scoring day, the Suns are really tough; if not, they're mediocre at best.
 

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Give the Grizzlies credit. It looks like they're going to rise to the occasion against the Heat.

Unfortunately I think this is going to play out the way it should with us on the outside looking in. We're just not as complete of a team as Memphis and it was really only injuries that put them down there in our range.
 

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You're interpreting the statistic incorrectly. If the Suns are 20-2 when Bledose scores 15+, then they're below .500 when he fails to reach that mark -- even worse than when he's not in uniform. The conclusion is that Bledsoe needs to score to be a positive difference-maker. If he has a good scoring day, the Suns are really tough; if not, they're mediocre at best.

I agree that's it's not just a positive statement about Eric but I don't think I'm interpreting it incorrectly. I think it's reasonable to expect Bledsoe to score 15+ most nights and I also think he needs to reach that point with greater consistency. It's just that usually that magical point where a team never loses occurs when someone does something great, not when he does something fairly mundane. We are now 23 - 2 when he scores 15 points.
 
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Unfortunately I think this is going to play out the way it should with us on the outside looking in. We're just not as complete of a team as Memphis and it was really only injuries that put them down there in our range.

The Suns could make the same argument when Bledsoe was out.

At this point, if the Suns make the playoffs I want them to do it the hard way.
 

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We aren't a good team, we only win because several of our players score enough points??? Isn't that basically what you're saying?

We've won almost 92% of our games when Bledsoe has scored 15 points. If you're right and it says nothing about Eric then we are in fact a very good team because finding a 15 point per game scorer isn't all that hard to do. And if that's going to be all it takes to win 75 games per season we're in great shape for the future.


I have no idea what you are saying.
 
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You're interpreting the statistic incorrectly. If the Suns are 20-2 when Bledose scores 15+, then they're below .500 when he fails to reach that mark -- even worse than when he's not in uniform. The conclusion is that Bledsoe needs to score to be a positive difference-maker. If he has a good scoring day, the Suns are really tough; if not, they're mediocre at best.

I'm with elindholm on this one. Bledsoe needs to score to be a difference maker, not that it takes away from his other contributions.
 

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The Suns could make the same argument when Bledsoe was out.

At this point, if the Suns make the playoffs I want them to do it the hard way.

Losing Bledsoe really hurt us but we've fared better in regards to key player injuries this year than most teams and certainly far better than Memphis who lost several key players for stretches.

As for your last point, you'll get your wish. If we make the playoffs it will be the hard way.
 
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