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As fans, of course we are always going to root for losses in these circumstances. Cheesebeef and his ilk can insult and flat out lie about me all he wants, but the facts don't change. Tanking is a fantasy in today's NBA because you need buy in from players to do it. And that just isn't going to happen.

But hey, cheesebeef and sunsfan44 can continue the personal insults with no repercussions, because, hey, EVERYBODY is angry. And I will say that neither of them are "idiots" for wanting them to lose to get a better draft pick, but they aren't INTENTIONALLY going to do it to satisfy fans. Corporate sponsors are infinitely more important, and they will never bow to having an unwatchable product.
 
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Huh? He's 6'10" vs 6'11" - ami missing something?

Giannis has very long legs and equally long arms. His stride and his length/reach compared to height gives him a huge advantage over Simmons. It's much better to be 6'10 with a 7'4 wingspan than it is to be 6'10 with a 7'0 wingspan. We'll see how Ben measures out but I'm pretty sure he won't have anywhere near the advantage Giannis has.
 

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It was a stupid win, but I had already resigned myself to getting the 4 spot once brooklyn shut down the only 2 real nba players they have in lopez and young, which is ridiculous since they dont have their pick.

Also we almost have a sure win on our schedule against a new orleans team that is not playing anybody either.

The only hope we have is brooklyn's last two games are against wash, which will be eliminated by then, and toronto which will be locked into the 2 seed. Toronto will for sure rest their best players, hopefully washington does the same.
 

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Sure but 5 assists says he can play; height / length is hardly everything.


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What a fan club this team has.

Stupid loss, sure. But to call the franchise stupid because they didn't conform to your irresponsible concept of tanking is ridiculous. As much as you think to the contrary, maybe the team doesn't really want to lose. Crazy, I know.

They lose and get a high draft pick, guaranteed you will complain about the pick, so don't pretend that you know how a pro franchise should be run. You and guys like Sunsfan44 will NEVER be satisfied.

you complain about Cheesebeef and SunsFan44 "insulting people" without repercussions when the above is ALL a personal attack... When you call people ridiculous, and project BS in their mouths like we'll never be satisified, GUARANTEE we'll complain about whatever pick, expect to get slammed back. Hell, you've even made up a nickname to slam Sunsfan88 to make him 44, I assume because he's less then a fan. But, I guess it's okay... because you're doing it.

Thanks for proving my point for me. Now, go cry me a river and unload with another completely hypocritical post.
 

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Okay so we've reduced our chances at top 3. I think we can get a good player anyhow in the top 5-6 whatever. Suns are cursed so just accept that it's one of those years. At least we've got Booker.
 

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As fans, of course we are always going to root for losses in these circumstances. Cheesebeef and his ilk can insult and flat out lie about me all he wants, but the facts don't change. Tanking is a fantasy in today's NBA because you need buy in from players to do it. And that just isn't going to happen.

But hey, cheesebeef and sunsfan44 can continue the personal insults with no repercussions, because, hey, EVERYBODY is angry. And I will say that neither of them are "idiots" for wanting them to lose to get a better draft pick, but they aren't INTENTIONALLY going to do it to satisfy fans. Corporate sponsors are infinitely more important, and they will never bow to having an unwatchable product.

Insulting? Go back and read your first post to me you sanctimonious hypocrite.
 

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Insulting? Go back and read your first post to me you sanctimonious hypocrite.

So it's attack the poster not the post? I never called you ridiculous and in fact made a point to say that your brother is NOT an idiot. I think calling the team stupid, dumb, etc simply because they don't try to lose is ridiculous and will stand by that.

Your brother also accused me of saying I'm ok with these wins, which is another lie. I would much rather the team lose, but I'm not naive enough to think they will lose on purpose. I don't think you should be either. What we want as a handful of die hards is irrelevant to the management of the team.

But keep calling me names, it won't change anything.
 

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So it's attack the poster not the post? I never called you ridiculous and in fact made a point to say that your brother is NOT an idiot. I think calling the team stupid, dumb, etc simply because they don't try to lose is ridiculous and will stand by that.

Your brother also accused me of saying I'm ok with these wins, which is another lie. I would much rather the team lose, but I'm not naive enough to think they will lose on purpose. I don't think you should be either. What we want as a handful of die hards is irrelevant to the management of the team.

But keep calling me names, it won't change anything.

Lol... So, now people are ridiculous and naive... but you're the one who's being persecuted here.

I mean when you start a post with "Some fan club this team has".... And then call those fans ridiculous, naive, change their screen-names and project REALLY stupid BS crap into their arguments, are those ridiculous, naive fans supposed to think you're complimenting them?

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
 
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Lol... So, now people are ridiculous and naive... but you're the one who's being persecuted here.

I mean when you start a post with "Some fan club this team has".... And then call those fans ridiculous, naive, change their screen-names and project REALLY stupid BS crap into their arguments, are those ridiculous, naive fans supposed to think you're complimenting them?

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Are you ok? Seriously. You are very upset over a non-issue, the crux of which we agree on. But continue the name calling; it adds no substance to the conversation. My point remains and you have done NOTHING to refute it except whine about context. You're better than that.
 

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So it's attack the poster not the post? I never called you ridiculous and in fact made a point to say that your brother is NOT an idiot. I think calling the team stupid, dumb, etc simply because they don't try to lose is ridiculous and will stand by that.

Your brother also accused me of saying I'm ok with these wins, which is another lie. I would much rather the team lose, but I'm not naive enough to think they will lose on purpose. I don't think you should be either. What we want as a handful of die hards is irrelevant to the management of the team.

But keep calling me names, it won't change anything.

In my post I attacked the team. In your post you attacked me. It's that simple. You started this. You always start this.
 

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Are you ok? Seriously. You are very upset over a non-issue, the crux of which we agree on. But continue the name calling; it adds no substance to the conversation. My point remains and you have done NOTHING to refute it except whine about context. You're better than that.

You're right. I am completely in the wrong here and you did nothing to provoke this.

Carry on folks.
 

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Chap, I hit this forum a few times a week and check in on the game threads. Inevitably it's nothing but the same 4-5 people complaining that the Suns aren't throwing games on purpose. I don't know why I occasionally chime in and try to outline how asinine that idea is... But here I am.

Where were you when the fans wanted the Suns to win games but they couldn't and they were losing? Like in November and December?
 

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