Suns Sign Brian Grant

[sly fly]

Nice signing.

Funny how the mature, grizzled vet knows where the goods are.

Equally funny, is how JJ comes off looking like a total ass wanting to go play with a lottery team in a SUCK sports town with a SUCK franchise. Good riddance, JJ.

 

[PakistaniRambo]

this roster is definitely not set. we still have some issues to resolve.

1) it would be nice to add another backup C or PF. Putting together a package involving the Lakers pick we aquired + one of our exceptions +a player like JJax or Barbosa for Chris Wilcox (my choice) or Gooden. If we could snag one of those, we would have a killer front court.

2) we need a good shooting guard. the obvious choice here is Finley, and if he signs with us, i think Bell and him would be nice replacements for Q and JJ. And if we happen to get Finley,then we could get rid of JJax + other assets for something worthwhile.

3) We could use a backup PG. Don't forget about Gary Payton, he still hasn't signed with anyone yet and i think he would be a good fit in our system.


If somehow we can pull off all 3 of these options, we would be favorites in the west in my opinion. we would have such a deep team...man what a dream

 

[damo]

does this signing have any affect on our possible ability to add finley? if not, great signing, if it does, then i guess we were never gonna get finley anyway.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If Finley isn't interested in coming here for 1.1, he's probably not interested in coming for 1.8.

The Heat have the full mle to offer. Either he wants to come here or he doesn't, the Grant signing can only help, in that it shows we're still working at doing what we can to win.

 

[JCSunsfan]

So, let's sign Finley for the minimum, Calvin Booth for the minimum, and Payton for the minimum and call it a day.

 

[devilalum]

So, let's sign Finley for the minimum, Calvin Booth for the minimum, and Payton for the minimum and call it a day.

The SUns would have to have a new nick name like:

Amnesty International

 

[Evil Ash]

If Finley isn't interested in coming here for 1.1, he's probably not interested in coming for 1.8.

The Heat have the full mle to offer. Either he wants to come here or he doesn't, the Grant signing can only help, in that it shows we're still working at doing what we can to win.

He has the possibily off being signed and traded by a team underneath the salary cap to something equivalent to the MLE (The Hawks trade exemption).

Which leads to a good hypothetical question ... if there were the possibility of adding Finley to this team at an MLE level contract with the cost being the Hawks trade exemption and one of our draft picks (not the Boston or Atlanta pick ... our own pick), would you do it?

I have to admit if it were possible it would be pretty dang tempting

 

[elindholm]

He has the possibily off being signed and traded by a team underneath the salary cap to something equivalent to the MLE (The Hawks trade exemption).

No, you can't sign and trade another team's free agent, and Dallas isn't permitted to re-sign him. The Suns can't use a trade exception to get Finley.

 

[Evil Ash]

He has the possibily off being signed and traded by a team underneath the salary cap to something equivalent to the MLE (The Hawks trade exemption).

No, you can't sign and trade another team's free agent, and Dallas isn't permitted to re-sign him. The Suns can't use a trade exception to get Finley.

DOH well there goes that theory. Ah well

 

[djohnson]

According to Marc Stein of ESPN... Suns are now targeting Finley:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2135122

 

[sunsfn]

I would think that with Grant signing, that is the end of another big man unless they can find a shot blocker somewhere. I still would not mind if they signed Diop for some reasonable price and played him occasionally and could have him for the future. He was doing ok last year until he got injured, and he never came back from that.

Hey, they could include him in the trade we are going to make for Jackson!
Right Graham?

I am one that does not want Gary Payton, and I do not think the suns do either. Can you imagine him on the bench and locker room saying the suns need to give him more minutes of playing time.........no thanks!

 

[sunsfn]

Forgot,

Has Grant announced if he is going to cut his hair??

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

good signing. i think we'll only need 15 mins outta him this year. can hit the jumper (seemed to never miss against us), rebound and play defense. our big rotation of amare, kurt, and grant is much better than last year's rotation. we won't get manhandled this year.

fins would be a great signing. but unless nash is the slickest con-man alive, i doubt he's coming here for the least amount of money.

 

[Evil Ash]

According to Marc Stein of ESPN... Suns are now targeting Finley:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2135122

Hmm this is probably going to be a tough sell. We better hope that familiarity and comfort level with the franchise and the ability to play with Nash leads to one heck of a discount. Who knows maybe the Suns had an under the table type agreement with Finley. I'd say the chances of that and him coming here are pretty slim at this point but I've been wrong before

Where he makes his first visit will probably tell us where more than likely he is going to sign

 

[boisesuns]

He can certainly get the rebounds. We should have no problem getting rebounds with our front line and shawn. Stopping second chance points will be huge this year. It might even make us just as effective as we were with JJ.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

I don't see how this affects the Finley pursuit at all. Like it was previously mentioned in here, 700k isn't going to make up Finley's mind.

I like the move. It is risky, but 10 minutes from Grant would be great for this team. There really wasn't anyone else I liked for the LLE at this point, only thing is I hope nothing great comes up next season since we won't have it.

 

[George O'Brien]

Even at half speed, Grant is light years ahead of the other guys available for the price. However, if the Suns trainers can do for Brian what they did for Dice, the Suns could have one of the most formidible front lines in the NBA. (The concept of "formidble front line" and Suns in the same sentence is pretty strange.)

BTW, I would expect Grant to backup KT, but I doubt they would be in the lineup at the same time except in very unusual situations.

 

[PakistaniRambo]

I don't see how this affects the Finley pursuit at all. Like it was previously mentioned in here, 700k isn't going to make up Finley's mind.

I like the move. It is risky, but 10 minutes from Grant would be great for this team. There really wasn't anyone else I liked for the LLE at this point, only thing is I hope nothing great comes up next season since we won't have it.

where does this 700K figure come from? Miami can give him the full MLE which is 4.9 million ( same with detroit i believe).

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

where does this 700K figure come from? Miami can give him the full MLE which is 4.9 million ( same with detroit i believe).

I was talking about how DJohnson said we could kiss Finley good bye.

In other words I think that if Finley was going to come to Phx he would do it for the minimum and us giving away the LLE won't affect his decision. The difference between the minimum and LLE is about 700k

 

[Suns_fan69]

Even at half speed, Grant is light years ahead of the other guys available for the price. However, if the Suns trainers can do for Brian what they did for Dice, the Suns could have one of the most formidible front lines in the NBA. (The concept of "formidble front line" and Suns in the same sentence is pretty strange.)

BTW, I would expect Grant to backup KT, but I doubt they would be in the lineup at the same time except in very unusual situations.

It's not that far out of reason, if both Shawn and Amare were in foul trouble that'd be one of the more attractive lineups to throw out there.

Regardless I am fairly happy with this signing. As others have mentioned there's no one else really out there that would be better and would come at this price. Now, if we can somehow snag finley (assuming he's not traded) I'd declare this offseason a success, despite losing JJ.

Also, I finally see why JJ wanted to sign with Atlanta. He misses his family so much that now he's guaranteed to be able to be with them 2 months earlier with the Hawks then with the Suns. Have fun watching the playoffs, JJ

 

[zett]

this roster is definitely not set. we still have some issues to resolve.

1) it would be nice to add another backup C or PF. Putting together a package involving the Lakers pick we aquired + one of our exceptions +a player like JJax or Barbosa for Chris Wilcox

I wouldn't trade JJax straight up for wilcox let alone throw in all the extra's

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

I agree. Jackson is pretty my untouchable for me. His performance to contract ratio is amazing, and we need him.

Like I have said earlier, I would much rather have Jimmy playing big minutes that Finley at this point.

 

[elindholm]

In other words I think that if Finley was going to come to Phx he would do it for the minimum and us giving away the LLE won't affect his decision. The difference between the minimum and LLE is about 700k

And since half of his new salary goes back to Dallas, it's really only $350k.

 

[PakistaniRambo]

yeah i guess i didn't take into account the size of his contract. but i would still trade him straight up for wilcox in a heartbeat. JJax only has a year left on his contract anyway.

 

[George O'Brien]

I'm not entirely clear why Finley would be making his decision based on a million or so dollars. Hel'll be making $15.8 million this season even if he decided to play somewhere for free.

The idea that Finley has been orchestrating a disinformation campaign to con Cuban seems entirely feasible. Cuban has not gotten over the grief he got when Nash left and compounding it with Finley would be hard to take. He'd be sorely tempted to hang onto Finley if it would keep him from going to the Suns.

Is it just a smoke screen? The flirtation with the Heat may be real, but it really does not make a lot of sense. The Heat are not an up tempo team and they already are set for their starting lineup. Whatever extra the Heat can pay, Finley might make more as a starter on the Suns due to endorsment opportunities.