Suns sign PG Isaiah Canaan

[Phrazbit]

And certain people said the Gleague was a bunch of hot garbage players.

I said the competition level in the gleague is trash and the stats are meaningless... which it is and they are.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I said the competition level in the gleague is trash and the stats are meaningless... which it is and they are.

Just because you say it with such conviction, and repeat it, doesn’t make it true. I think this opinion is a bit dated. The GLeague has been improving year by year.

 

[Phrazbit]

Just because you say it with such conviction, and repeat it, doesn’t make it true. I think this opinion is a bit dated. The GLeague has been improving year by year.

Well, it came up because Jones Jr had recently blown it up in the Gleague, and it was stated that current players on the roster couldn't do it down there, which I viewed as nonsense, shortly after Jones Jr was released and no one wanted him.

There are players in the Gleague who can play in the NBA, just as there are a few guys in China that can too, but overall the competition level is trash and virtually all of the guys there will never see a minute in the NBA.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Well, it came up because Jones Jr had recently blown it up in the Gleague, and it was stated that current players on the roster couldn't do it down there, which I viewed as nonsense, shortly after Jones Jr was released and no one wanted him.

There are players in the Gleague who can play in the NBA, just as there are a few guys in China that can too, but overall the competition level is trash and virtually all of the guys there will never see a minute in the NBA.

I am not disputing it is below NBA level. I am disputing the characterization as “trash” which I believe is hyperbole at best.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I am not disputing it is below NBA level. I am disputing the characterization as “trash” which I believe is hyperbole at best.

Let’s be honest . . . how many of us have watched one, much less multiple, g league games of multiple teams to make ANY determination? I’m betting one of us . . . and that person is lying.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Jones Jr was released and no one wanted him.

I believe the Suns wanted him.

 

[Phrazbit]

I am not disputing it is below NBA level. I am disputing the characterization as “trash” which I believe is hyperbole at best.

It is well below NBA level.

For example: The Gleague's top scorer is Antonio Blakeney. He is averaging nearly 38 points per game. Yes... 38 points per game. Behind him is Justin Dentmon a 32 year old on repeat Gleague scoring champ. Dudes who cannot crack an NBA roster are pouring in CRAZY points down there, stats that blow away what these same dudes did in college. Why? Because the competition level is lower than that of college... and why is that? Because most players that have some talent but not good enough for the NBA end up overseas, where they can make some actual money.

Players on gleague contracts make significantly less than teachers, 19-26k.

THAT is why I have formulated this opinion... because when you do just a little bit of digging it is really really obvious. The competition level is trash, the statistical returns are worthless as a metric and the vast majority of the players in the league were insignificant even in college.

 

[Ronin]

scott bordow
@sbordow

McDonough confirming on Arizona Sports 98.7 what I tweeted out earlier, that Canaan likely to have spot on roster rest of season.

 

[JCSunsfan]

scott bordow
@sbordow

McDonough confirming on Arizona Sports 98.7 what I tweeted out earlier, that Canaan likely to have spot on roster rest of season.

When you have a guy play so obviously well and make such an immediate impact--well--everyone notices. If they cut him, the players will take it as a lack of commitment on the part of the team. Someone else will have to be cut.

I don't think James can by rule
House is a two-way player, so that will not help.
So, now you have to look at other players. That gets dicey.

 

[Mainstreet]

Bordow thinks Monroe is the likely the odd man out but Len can be traded with consent December 23rd.

Also trading Chandler would give the Suns more cap space as he has one more year left on his contract after this season.

scott bordow‏Verified account@sbordow

Don't be surprised if Isaiah Canaan stays on the roster once Booker returns. Logical place to open up a roster spot would be at center, where there's a logjam of three. If Suns go that way, Monroe likely odd man out.

12:48 PM - 20 Dec 2017

 

[elindholm]

When you have a guy play so obviously well and make such an immediate impact--well--everyone notices. If they cut him, the players will take it as a lack of commitment on the part of the team. Someone else will have to be cut.

I don't think James can by rule
House is a two-way player, so that will not help.
So, now you have to look at other players. That gets dicey.

If they're stuck, they'll waive Monroe. As much as some of us on this board would like the Suns to consider him as a future option, it doesn't seem like that's part of the front office's vision.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Bordow thinks Monroe is the likely the odd man out but Len can be traded with consent December 23rd.

Also trading Chandler would give the Suns more cap space as he has one more year left on his contract after this season.

I wouldn’t cut any of the centers. None of them are world beaters but all have trade value, even if minimal.

 

[Phrazbit]

yeah, it let House or James go before dumping on of the bigs, those 2 clearly have to future... or presant

 

[Mainstreet]

I wouldn’t cut any of the centers. None of them are world beaters but all have trade value, even if minimal.

BC is that you.

I would like to get a draft pick out of one of them.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If they're stuck, they'll waive Monroe. As much as some of us on this board would like the Suns to consider him as a future option, it doesn't seem like that's part of the front office's vision.

There is just no way that Monroe, Chandler, Len, and Sauce are all part of our future, especially with the prospect of drafting another big in this draft.

Chandler is a fixture here and a good will ambassador for the Suns around the league. The only way he gets traded is because he wants to be traded. I do not think he wants it.

Sauce will not be traded.

So, they will either trade Monroe or something else. Can they put Canaan on a two-way and drop House?

Another idea would be to trade Daniels. I am sure he has some value, but is not really necessary with Booker back.

Wish we could trade Chriss, but he really has no value right now.

 

[Mainstreet]

Triano on a Canaan and Booker backcourt.

scott bordow‏Verified account@sbordow


Triano on Canaan and Booker possibly in the same backcourt: "They'll be on the floor together I think for large parts of games. Isaiah is a guy who can create but also a willing passer. I just want to see what they do together."

6:31 PM - 20 Dec 2017

 

[Mainstreet]

In regard to Triano changing lineups.

scott bordow‏Verified account@sbordow


Remember in all this: Suns are using this year to see who can play, who fits into the future, who plays well with who, etc. Behooves Triano to see lot of different lineups, combinations

6:39 PM - 20 Dec 2017

 

[Hoop Head]

They should be able to waive James but I doubt that happens. I wonder if they can drop House and then convert Reed's contract to a Two-Way deal. That would create an issue if he was on the main roster for too long but I think he'll see a lot of time in the G-League anyways.

Monroe will either be traded or bought out by the trade deadline though. I wonder when they have to make a decision on Canaan though, that will say something about what the Suns will do to free up space.

If we could get a lottery pick for Chriss, I'd help him pack but I highly doubt we could get a 1st from a playoff team for him at this point. Len could probably bring back a 1st rounder in a trade but I think the Suns will try and keep him beyond this season. It depends on what sort of pick we could get though to determine if it's worthwhile or not. If the Celtics, or another top seeded team, offered their 1st though I wouldn't make that trade but a middle of the pack team or worse though I'd seriously consider that.

 

[Hoop Head]

According to Scott Bordow they need to make room for Canaan when Booker is healthy and returns. I thought they had a little longer than that because I read something about how Booker didn't need to miss X amount of time in order for the Suns to sign Canaan under the injury exception. I guess I understood that wrong.

I imagine they'll make sure Booker is 100% before bringing him back so they can make sure they get the most time possible out of the injury exception and explore all options to create that roster spot.

 

[BC867]

BC is that you.

I would like to get a draft pick out of one of them.

LOL. I've always believed that a contending team should have three Point Guard and three Centers, so you always have two. But clearly a starter, a bench player in the rotation and strength in reserve at the end of the bench, each accepting their roles.

Until the emergence of Len, I would have been comfortable keeping all three Centers. But it looks like Len will keep pushing himself until he gets his contract (or maybe beyond). The Center rotation lately has been only two of the three every game. So I would not be adverse to the Suns moving one of the three "lead" Centers (just as it didn't work with three "lead" Point Guards.

And if one of the two remaining Centers should go down with an injury, or with foul trouble in a game, improvise. That should make the you-know-who crowd happy. Then, in starting with a winning attitude from the start of next season, have a lead Center, a backup and the third at the end of the bench (or if a PF can step in with strength).

That is I, Mainstreet.

 

[BC867]

To expound on that point . . .

I've used the word "gimmick" to describe our Suns over the years. Three lead Point Guards. Three lead Centers. Top scorers in the backcourt. Forwards having to carry the rebounding load. All at different times.

That's just putting on a show to get some attention. It is not how you build a contender.

Can we ever hope that the Suns will have ownership that will hire a General Manager and Head Coach who know, and respect, the difference?

Nah! Why should the 51st season be any different than the first 50. There, I got that off my chest.

 

[devilalum]

Looks like the Cannaanball Express just jumped the track.


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[Haunting]

I've used the word "gimmick" to describe our Suns over the years. Three lead Point Guards. Three lead Centers. Top scorers in the backcourt. Forwards having to carry the rebounding load. All at different times.

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I've used the word "gimmick" to describe our Suns over the years. Three lead Point Guards. Three lead Centers. Top scorers in the backcourt. Forwards having to carry the rebounding load. All at different times.

This is typical basketball.

 

[Mainstreet]

LOL. I've always believed that a contending team should have three Point Guard and three Centers, so you always have two. But clearly a starter, a bench player in the rotation and strength in reserve at the end of the bench, each accepting their roles.

Until the emergence of Len, I would have been comfortable keeping all three Centers. But it looks like Len will keep pushing himself until he gets his contract (or maybe beyond). The Center rotation lately has been only two of the three every game. So I would not be adverse to the Suns moving one of the three "lead" Centers (just as it didn't work with three "lead" Point Guards.

And if one of the two remaining Centers should go down with an injury, or with foul trouble in a game, improvise. That should make the you-know-who crowd happy. Then, in starting with a winning attitude from the start of next season, have a lead Center, a backup and the third at the end of the bench (or if a PF can step in with strength).

That is I, Mainstreet.

The Suns may even get Alan Williams back in March. So that would get the Suns back to three centers if they move one.

I do like having three PGs on the roster and three centers on the roster as well.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah came back to earth last night. Watching him I saw some ill-advised shots. A lot of hype for two games.