Suns tell Porter job in Jeopardy

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http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2009/2/9/754264/suns-tell-porter-his-job-i

Sources close to the Suns front office tell me that Terry Porter hasn't lived up to expectations and has been given a list of specific things to improve on. Failure to perform could cost him his job.
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Many blame Porter for not maximizing the talent on the roster and for not gaining the respect of his veteran players. Reports include Barnes and Shaq ignoring him on the bench and demanding to be put back in the game or refusing to be taken out.
Porter has been unable to display the confidence needed to earn the trust of his players and in retrospect may have never had the experience and reputation to be successful in this environment.
It would not be fair however, to put all the team's woes on the head coach's shoulders. Porter has his work cut out for him trying to balance the desires and demands of his two MVPs along with a large assortment of star players both young and old. He walked into a situation where Shaq, Amare and Nash were all needing the same space to work. No coach can change the laws of physics and create space where none exists.
Porter's boss, General Manager Steve Kerr, drafted and signed guys for their defense and hustle but then quickly abandoned this approach in favor of unleashing his point guard. Unable to gain their buy-in, the team traded two defensive role players for yet another scorer who needs the ball to be most effective.
It is hard to find an example of another team with six guys that all can shoot 15 times per game being asked to mesh their various skills together and learn to be role players. Five great players at their position makes for a nice fantasy team but not necessarily the best basketball team.
The fact that this information came to me (along with similar reports to Hoops World) says as much about the struggles of the coach as the organization that employees him. I wonder if Porter is being set up to take the fall for the lack of consistency and commitment to a coherent vision from the top.
Terry Porter might not be the right guy for this job but if that's the case the person responsible for hiring him can not be ignored.

I have no word on timing or who possible replacements would be. One would assume Alvin Gentry, who has head coaching experience with the Clippers, could be interim choice if a move is made.

Moving Amare...
The word I am getting from the top is that moving Amare is for financial reasons and that is certainly consistent with other reports along with what Amare believes.
Amare made these comments after Monday's game in Detroit:
"I think it's all about what they want to do and what they're trying to do financially," he said. "I think their main focus is their financial intake."
I have my suspicions about this. My guess is that putting the "blame" on the finances will cause less turmoil with Amare if a deal isn't done and also serve to increase (or least not decrease) his trade value in the eyes of other teams and their fans.
The term "addition by subtraction" was used by the Suns' front office in the past few weeks although that kind of talk has now died down.
That is not to say that I don't believe that the team's ownership group wants to get under the salary cap but if that's the primary goal there are certainly other ways to get there without trading away a young all star like Amare.
The Suns' organization declined to provide an official response to these reports.
Something that should have been done weeks ago.

dbdynasty of RealGM adds that last week Porter was given an actual typed up list of things he needs to do after a long sitdown with Kerr.


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Sorry for him?!?!? He took a steaming dump on our beloved team. How do you screw up the Suns this bad!?! Players are IGNORING him! That's epic fail

**** Porter IDB
 

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Fire a coach and hire another one cost more money, probably millions.

By all means we will not accept a lesser successor, it got to be a proven veteran, which won't come cheap. Jeff Van Gandy? Avery Johnson?
 

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The Suns likely can't afford to dump Porter (and I highly doubt his job is on the line this soon anyhow), but if they did I'd be very happy if they brought in Marc Ivaroni :D

EDIT: VV You do realize this is a completely non journalistic source and is as reliable as you or I saying Porter is going to be fired on a blog, right?
 
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finally some words on firing Porter, which should be the first step of any change
 

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finally some words on firing Porter, which should be the first step of any change

Don't count on it. The organization is trying to save money. Firing the coach and hiring another one is the opposite.

I suspect this is mostly team politics. Amare has been blamed, Nash has spoken publicly, Shaq and Barnes has expressed concerns. If FO doesn't give Porter a word, players will be more unhappy.
 
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How many NBA head coaches even finish their contracts?

What if we paid an NBA coach based on victories and most importantly playoff victories?

how awesome would it be if we paid the players that way? Money has a way of sharpening one's focus and increasing one's effort.
 

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Perfect world...

Trade Amare for young defender/rebounder and 1st round pick (since it's obvious we won't spend money to resign him next year anyway).

Fire Porter.

Gentry as interim.

Hire Budenholzer from the Spurs this off-season. Should have hired him last year.
 

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This just adds to the article I posted on another thread that the Suns were considering firing Porter. The Suns have to consider it. Especially if Porter is losing the players.

Also, the trading Amare for financial reasons is a TOTAL smoke screen. Ofrcourse, they are going to tell Amare that if traded. It will be easier for Amare to swallow if he is told it's financial versus his dissapointing play. The Suns wouldn't want a player blasting them on the way out if avoidable. To much has already been leaked about them being dissapointed in Amare.
 
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This confirms the article I posted on another thread that the Suns were considering firing Porter.

No, no it does not. This is not a journalistic or credible source. Its a message board just like this one that has front page articles written by users. Do you really think someone writing articles under the name 'Phoenix Stan' is a credible source to confirm anything? "Sources close to the Suns front office" tell him? Please.

Now the Suns could very well fire Porter, but that doesn't make this guy right. He's doing the internet equivalent of a psychics cold read, throwing likely stuff out there and hoping to be right.
 

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No, no it does not. This is not a journalistic or credible source. Its a message board just like this one that has front page articles written by users. Do you really think someone writing articles under the name 'Phoenix Stan' is a credible source to confirm anything? "Sources close to the Suns front office" tell him? Please.

Now the Suns could very well fire Porter, but that doesn't make this guy right. He's doing the internet equivalent of a psychics cold read, throwing likely stuff out there and hoping to be right.

True. What I should have said is adds credibitlity to the article I already posted. When you get multiple reports regardless of the source....where there is smoke there is fire.
 

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I said, and say this again.

Think about the money. Porter makes about 3M a year and under contract for a few more years, how much the team need to pay him to settle it? A new coach should have a salary no less than that. In total, it will cost the team quite a couple of millions, maybe nearly 10M. TEN DAMN MILLION US DOLLARS.

It is team politics. The front office has to put some blame on Porter to make the players happy, whether they are planning to fire him, or not.
 

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if Porter didn't know his job was in jeopardy, then he's a worse coach then we thought.
 

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Sorry for him?!?!? He took a steaming dump on our beloved team. How do you screw up the Suns this bad!?! Players are IGNORING him! That's epic fail

**** Porter IDB

The sad part is that apparently almost all the players dont respect him and the suns traded some for that reason. I suppose they should trade everybody and keep porter.:D
 

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Our starting 5 should be

Lopez
Amundson
Barnes
Tucker
Dragic

with Porter as the coach. At least he won't be complaining about energy with Amundson out there all night.
 

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Our starting 5 should be

Lopez
Amundson
Barnes
Tucker
Dragic

with Porter as the coach. At least he won't be complaining about energy with Amundson out there all night.

10 bucks says he would still use the energy excuse after every loss. :D
 

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Good, but shouldn't he have known A LOT sooner? I mean the guy obviously can't reach our veterans.
 

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Shaq and Nash should just be the joint coaches.
 
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Yeah, uhh, pretty sure he's not dumb, and I'd actually say he's a pretty solid coach.

He's just a bad fit for this team.
I disagree 100%.

His decision making skills need to be taken out back and put out of their misery.
 

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