Suns @ Timberwolves Sunday game thread, November 17th, 2024

[Hoop Head]

Hmm...did Julius Randle's Suns-killing three-point-shot seem anything like Tim Duncan's in 2008? I'll bet that no one who would answer is capable of ignoring that this wasn't a playoff game. But the startlement factor: were you caught by surprise in any degree like in 2008?

Nothing alike. Randle averages 5 attempts a game from deep and 2 makes. He also created his own shot and wasn't fed for an open look. Absolutely no relation to Duncan's shot from 16 years ago.

Not everything has some historical connection and some suggestions like Randle's 3 is akin to Duncan's is a huge reach. Highlights are available online everywhere now so this can't just be chalked up to box score watching as much as attempting to create a connection out of thin air. If would make as more sense to compare it to Blake Griffin in 2014, because it won't matter after the next game.

 

[Suns_fan69]

L2M Report

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TLR - Correct No Call on the Randle forearm, but they missed that Randle traveled before releasing the shot.

 

[Mainstreet]

L2M Report

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TLR - Correct No Call on the Randle forearm, but they missed that Randle traveled before releasing the shot.

The off-arm was still deemed illegal contact on the correct non-call.

 

[clyde2tw]

L2M Report

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TLR - Correct No Call on the Randle forearm, but they missed that Randle traveled before releasing the shot.

‘Okogie is not dislodged from his defensive position as a result of illegal contact from Randle.’
The contact by Randle is deemed illegal. But Okogie was strong enough to hold his position.

Last Two-Minute Report

From the clip it's clear, Okogie was very close to Randle with perfect legal moves, Randle stepped into JO's direction and pushed with forearm into his body. No way JO could still keep balance there.

 

[Superbone]

‘Okogie is not dislodged from his defensive position as a result of illegal contact from Randle.’
The contact by Randle is deemed illegal. But Okogie was strong enough to hold his position.

In other words, not rewarding selling the call?

 

[1tinsoldier]

i didn't say ai wasn't clutch! i said he and the others were not winners because they were 1on1 in the clutch instead of taking advantage of team ball!

and you know who's not on that list of 30 clutch shooters? Booker, shooting 25% from 3 in the final minute in the past couple of seasons, but i didn't need to dig any deeper because anyone without rose-colored glasses has seen him chuck wild 3pt shots when we only need 1 or 2 to win about a dozen times in recent years

-- and lead historic collapses in clutch playoff games after "Booker's team" had the worst record in the league for a couple of seasons
-- and last season, lead the Suns to the 3rd(?) worst close-out record for any team in NBA history!!!

even Ann Meyers criticized the last half dozen isolation plays last night and Book himself said 3 days ago that he wasn't going to force shots like the old Book anymore

i understand that Book is still the fan favorite and that's fine. Loving basketball doesn't have to be about winning. It can just be about rooting for your favorite player.

but covering your eyes when it comes to obvious flaws in your favorite player (and bullying those who don't) while not hesitating to pick out other scapegoats for losses is hypocritical, to say the least.

if your boy puts the ball in the basket for 44, you're not allowed to admit they blew it in the end. again. and again.

 

[1tinsoldier]

The players who aren't fan favorites, like Nurkic, are more freely blamed (who i believe is a better than average center who doesn't work out well with some match-ups. Bud just needs to call plays so that he isn't standing unguarded behind the 3pt line feeling obligated to take the shot).

like i said. i'd trade Booker for Jalen Brunson -- even if we had to add someone else to the deal. imo, Booker would be happier to be there anyway. To me, he rarely seems happy the past 2 years. And that can't be good for team morale.

 

[Mainstreet]

In other words, not rewarding selling the call?

More like not calling the second half the same as the first half.

 

[Mainstreet]

The players who aren't fan favorites, like Nurkic, are more freely blamed (who i believe is a better than average center who doesn't work out well with some match-ups).

like i said. i'd trade Booker for Jalen Brunson -- even if we had to add someone else to the deal. imo, Booker would be happier to be there anyway. To me, he rarely seems happy the past 2 years. And that can't be good for team morale.

The Suns can't aggregate players in a trade as a second apron tax team.

Maybe you should know this if you are trying to start a fire.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is a look at the Suns court before the game tonight.

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