Suns to sign Jordan McRae to 10 day contract

[JCSunsfan]

When doing analysis, you HAVE to look at things in hindsight. We got the short end of the stick on the Knight trade and IT trade, so some of us are not convinced we will get a better deal for other players too. That is a logical position.

You buy stock for $5 a share and you sell it for $10 a share. But maybe you could have sold it for $12. Do you lose?

 

[JCSunsfan]

How do you figure? Late first-round picks are cheap; often, come draft time, teams are practically willing to give them away. You know that the pick is this year's Cleveland pick, right?

A better analogy is that you bought $100 worth of lottery tickets, one of them turned out to be a $1000 winner, and you sold that winner for $200 after you knew what you had.

Bad analogy. We did not know what we had. In fact, he was of less value than when we signed him to begin with because we were able to sign Bledsoe. Just because he turned out to be of more value to Boston does not mean he would be of that value to us.

When Kieff gets traded, and he will. And he ends up being better than what we get back, and he will. Will we have lost that trade?

 

[elindholm]

Bad analogy. We did not know what we had.

But we should have, and I think a more experienced GM, with better judgment, would have.

When Kieff gets traded, and he will. And he ends up being better than what we get back, and he will. Will we have lost that trade?

I'm not at all sure that Morris's value will increase after he is traded. But if it does, then yes, we'd have to say that the Suns got the worse end of the deal.

Sometimes a bad trade is inevitable, but it's often necessitated by an earlier strategic error. What made the Thomas trade so poor was that it was the direct result of the summer's Bledsoe-paralysis, which could have been avoided altogether if the Suns weren't so hell-bent on this inane 2-PG concept. And frankly, if the Suns take a bath on MkMorris, they'll have only themselves to blame for that as well, because they made the mistake of bringing his brother on board and indulging their creepy codependency.

 

[BC867]

I'm not at all sure that Morris's value will increase after he is traded. But if it does, then yes, we'd have to say that the Suns got the worse end of the deal.

I think that JCSunsfan's comment was about Morris' performance increasing after he is traded, just as Thomas' has, rather than be concerned about his value.

In the case of Markieff Morris, our priority is removing his negatives from the Suns, rather than what his value or even performance might be with a different team.

As the D-backs just did with Aaron Hill. Sometimes removing someone whose performance has turned into a negative (for whatever reason) is as important, if not more important, than being concerned that he might perform better for his next team.

That won't affect us as much as tying up a roster spot with deadweight.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I think that JCSunsfan's comment was about Morris' performance increasing after he is traded, just as Thomas' has, rather than be concerned about his value.

In the case of Markieff Morris, our priority is removing his negatives from the Suns, rather than what his value or even performance might be with a different team.

As the D-backs just did with Aaron Hill. Sometimes removing someone whose performance has turned into a negative (for whatever reason) is as important, if not more important, than being concerned that he might perform better for his next team.

That won't affect us as much as tying up a roster spot with deadweight.

Thank you.

BTW. I am not sure that Boston, if they traded IT right now, would get much more than a mid to late first rounder for him. JMO.

 

[sunsfan88]

Forget his contract, IT as a player definitely has more value and you could make a case that he's probably even better than Knight, Bledsoe, Dragic and Ennis (the PGs the Suns have had in years past).

 

[sunsfan88]

Isaiah Thomas was not an All-Star when the Suns traded him for a first round pick. Obviously the Suns could have traded IT for more if everyone thought he would be an All-Star. I think IT was always undervalued until he went to the Celtics. However, at least the Suns seen the value in signing him. One can't always look at things in hindsight.

The coaching and the system plays a part in it too. Brad Stevens isn't as inept as Hornacek and knows how to get the best out of his players.

 

[sunsfan88]

I've been pleased (thus far) that McDonough doesn't get the short end of the stick in trades as well.

He got the short end in the Knight trade. You think Knight's better than what will likely will be a top 10 pick in this coming draft or the next? No way. Suns would struggle net even a late lottery pick for Knight now.

 

[Chaplin]

Forget his contract, IT as a player definitely has more value and you could make a case that he's probably even better than Knight, Bledsoe, Dragic and Ennis (the PGs the Suns have had in years past).

He's not better than Bledsoe. I know you love everyone NOT on the Suns, but come on, at least keep one foot in reality.

 

[sunsfan88]

He's not better than Bledsoe. I know you love everyone NOT on the Suns, but come on, at least keep one foot in reality.

Ok maybe not but he certainly has more value than Bledsoe now especially after Bledsoe's 3 or 4 meniscus surgeries and that becoming a recurring theme. Doesn't matter if he's a little better on the court if he isn't healthy enough to stay on the court. And really? "Like anyone who isn't on the Suns?" Coming from the king Archie Goodwin hater of all? Lol ok.

 

[Chaplin]

Ok maybe not but he certainly has more value than Bledsoe now especially after Bledsoe's 3 or 4 meniscus surgeries and that becoming a recurring theme. Doesn't matter if he's a little better on the court if he isn't healthy enough to stay on the court. And really? "Like anyone who isn't on the Suns?" Coming from the king Archie Goodwin hater of all? Lol ok.

What does my criticism of Archie Goodwin have to do with this? IT is light years better than Goodwin, and that's not even debatable.

 

[Phrazbit]

Ok maybe not but he certainly has more value than Bledsoe now especially after Bledsoe's 3 or 4 meniscus surgeries and that becoming a recurring theme. Doesn't matter if he's a little better on the court if he isn't healthy enough to stay on the court. And really? "Like anyone who isn't on the Suns?" Coming from the king Archie Goodwin hater of all? Lol ok.

I doubt that either. Meniscus surgeries don't frighten the way other knee injuries do. The guy bounced back from one before and didn't lose a step, was playing at a near all-star level prior to his injury this year.

And given that Goodwin has been horrendous of late, I don't really get how rubbing it in someone's face that they're a critique of his helps your argument.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns sign Jordan McRae to a second 10 day contract.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240709/Suns-Sign-Jordan-McRae-To-2nd-10-Day-Contract