Suns trade Cam Payne to the Spurs.

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Suns compensation update.

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Tweet cut off from Bobby Marks on Maintreet's post:
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Here’s what Phoenix now owes in the first round:

2024: Least favorable of own, Washington (if 13-30) or Memphis
2025: To Brooklyn
2026: Least favorable of own, Washington (if not conveyed to New York) or Orlando
2027: To Brooklyn
2028: Least favorable of own, Washington, Philadelphia (if 9-30) or Brooklyn
2029: To Brooklyn
2030: Least favorable of own, Washington or Memphis
 

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Interesting we didn't seem to do a 2 year deal with Bol Bol with 1 year guaranteed and one year player option, like our other free agents.
 

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Tweet cut off from Bobby Marks on Maintreet's post:
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42
Here’s what Phoenix now owes in the first round:

2024: Least favorable of own, Washington (if 13-30) or Memphis
2025: To Brooklyn
2026: Least favorable of own, Washington (if not conveyed to New York) or Orlando
2027: To Brooklyn
2028: Least favorable of own, Washington, Philadelphia (if 9-30) or Brooklyn
2029: To Brooklyn
2030: Least favorable of own, Washington or Memphis

At the bottom of the tweet there is a "show more" link.
 

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This is the Suns current roster:


PG: Devin Booker, Eric Gordon

SG: Bradley Beal, Jordan Goodwin, Damion Lee

SF: Josh Okogie, Keita Bates-Diop, Ish Wainright

PF: Kevin Durant, Yuta Watanabe, Toumani Camara

C: Deandre Ayton, Drew Eubanks, Chimezie Metu, Bol Bol

Two-way: Saban Lee


Labels are a formality at the moment.
 

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At the bottom of the tweet there is a "show more" link.
I know. Some people have been getting cut off from looking at Tweets by Musk's new filtering rules. Thought I would grab the whole thing before I got cut off, too! Maybe we need a thread keeping track of our first and second round picks for future discussions?

It doesn't look as bad as I thought, because a lot of those years are swap years, so we actually will pick, just possibly lower should some team do better than us in the playoffs or standings.
 

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This is the Suns current roster:


PG: Devin Booker, Eric Gordon

SG: Bradley Beal, Jordan Goodwin, Damion Lee

SF: Josh Okogie, Keita Bates-Diop, Ish Wainright

PF: Kevin Durant, Yuta Watanabe, Isaiah Todd

C: Deandre Ayton, Drew Eubanks, Chimezie Metu, Bol Bol

Two-way: Touamni Camara


Labels are a formality at the moment.
From what I am reading the Suns consider Goodwin a PG. Plus Saben-Lee too!

Interesting twist, Bol Bol's last team played him at PF.

Yeah I saw: "Labels are a formality at the moment."
 

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They have Jordan Goodwin, Saben Lee, and Eric Gordon who can ball handle.
Yeah but I don’t consider any of those guys a true PG, but the plan could be to just have a bunch of players who can distribute and not necessarily have a pure PG on the roster.
 

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From what I am reading the Suns consider Goodwin a PG. Plus Saben-Lee too!

Interesting twist, Bol Bol's last team played him at PF.

Yeah I saw: "Labels are a formality at the moment."

Note, I updated some roster changes after posting.
 

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Yeah but I don’t consider any of those guys a true PG, but the plan could be to just have a bunch of players who can distribute and not necessarily have a pure PG on the roster.
Researching Bradley Beal, and he has played PG before in the NBA.
 

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The Suns reportedly will save $15 million in luxury tax by trading Payne to the Spurs.

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This is the Suns current roster:


PG: Devin Booker, Eric Gordon

SG: Bradley Beal, Jordan Goodwin, Damion Lee

SF: Josh Okogie, Keita Bates-Diop, Ish Wainright

PF: Kevin Durant, Yuta Watanabe, Toumani Camara

C: Deandre Ayton, Drew Eubanks, Chimezie Metu, Bol Bol

Two-way: Saban Lee


Labels are a formality at the moment.
There's a Shams post where he is saying the Suns are considering Beal the starting PG!

PG: Bradley Beal, Jordan Goodwin

SG: Devin Booker, Eric Gordon, Damion Lee

SF: Josh Okogie, Keita Bates-Diop, Ish Wainright

PF: Kevin Durant, Yuta Watanabe, Toumani Camara

C: Deandre Ayton, Drew Eubanks, Chimezie Metu, Bol Bol

Two-way: Saban Lee
 

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There's a Shams post where he is saying the Suns are considering Beal the starting PG!

PG: Bradley Beal, Jordan Goodwin

SG: Devin Booker, Eric Gordon, Damion Lee

SF: Josh Okogie, Keita Bates-Diop, Ish Wainright

PF: Kevin Durant, Yuta Watanabe, Toumani Camara

C: Deandre Ayton, Drew Eubanks, Chimezie Metu, Bol Bol

Two-way: Saban Lee

Yeah, but I think the Suns will play point guard by committee and he says as much afterwards. I'm not locked onto who is the starting point guard.

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Glad to see that Shamet and Cam Payne are gone..... neither was going to help win a championship with the Suns.

Many berated me in late regular season when I suggested both should to looking for their next team for the 2024 season.
They were two Suns with no consistency.
 

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Tweet cut off from Bobby Marks on Maintreet's post:
https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42
Here’s what Phoenix now owes in the first round:

2024: Least favorable of own, Washington (if 13-30) or Memphis
2025: To Brooklyn
2026: Least favorable of own, Washington (if not conveyed to New York) or Orlando
2027: To Brooklyn
2028: Least favorable of own, Washington, Philadelphia (if 9-30) or Brooklyn
2029: To Brooklyn
2030: Least favorable of own, Washington or Memphis
I think that is erroneous, unless I am very mistaken. I believe we owe the "most" favorable of those picks, not the "least." Those other teams are not going to elect to swap for a lesser pick. I think he is confusing what we "owe" versus what we "own."

Someone correct me if I am misunderstanding.
 

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Payne had moments of brilliance, but overall he was too unreliable to be a rotation player for a team with championship aspirations. His game is too gimmicky and his fundamentals aren't very good.
I agree. If his shot wasn't falling, he actually often proved to be something of a liability. Of course, a lot of that was on Monty. Payne was one of his favorites, and he usually wouldn't pull him from the game when his shot was off, instead letting him brick away as any lead the team had dwindled.

That wasn't necessarily Payne's fault, and with Monty gone now, I don't expect it would have been so much of an issue going forward.
 

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