Suns trade ideas for the fall of 2020

[AzStevenCal]

You don’t trade that pick for a one year role player.

I don't know what you'd call him ("role player" is so meaningless) but I could see him being a pivotal player on a championship team. Whether that's worth paying that price for a player that might not stay past this season is beyond me.

 

[hcsilla]

The problem is that the Warriors is a repeating lux tax payer team which means that Oubre alone next season would cost them about 40 mil. Oubre's salary would fit into the trade exception that they created by the Igoudala-trade, so this trade works under the cap.

I think that most obvious issue with trading for Oubre is his expiring contract and UFA status next summer. Teams might hesitate to trade real assets for a rental.

I correct myself: the Iggy-trade exception did expire on 24th October.

 

[1Sun]

Did you read what you wrote before you posted what you wrote?

Yes, and in this draft, you cannot deny that. There are a number of interesting prospects, but zero bonafide blue chip certain to be star prospects.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yes, and in this draft, you cannot deny that. There are a number of interesting prospects, but zero bonafide blue chip certain to be star prospects.

Of course I can. Knowledge trumps ignorance and if it didn't, we'd just be pulling names out of a bucket. Does it mean that the number 2 pick will always be better than the number 15 pick, no, but it doesn't mean the 15th pick has an equal chance of success either no matter how weak the top of this class is purported to be.

Yes, this is a weak-ish draft at the high end and yes, we know less than usual about the available players but it still doesn't make all the lottery picks equal.

 

[1Sun]

Of course I can. Knowledge trumps ignorance and if it didn't, we'd just be pulling names out of a bucket. Does it mean that the number 2 pick will always be better than the number 15 pick, no, but it doesn't mean the 15th pick has an equal chance of success either no matter how weak the top of this class is purported to be.

Yes, this is a weak-ish draft at the high end and yes, we know less than usual about the available players but it still doesn't make all the lottery picks equal.

It certainly doesn't make the difference between 2 and 10 as great as a starter...

 

[AzStevenCal]

It certainly doesn't make the difference between 2 and 10 as great as a starter...

I'm not sure you're right but I'm not sure you're wrong on this either. I guess it just depends on what kind of player Toppin projects to be. From what I've read and what little I've seen, he sure seems to have star potential if his head is on straight and he lands with the right coach.

 

[1Sun]

I'm not sure you're right but I'm not sure you're wrong on this either. I guess it just depends on what kind of player Toppin projects to be. From what I've read and what little I've seen, he sure seems to have star potential if his head is on straight and he lands with the right coach.

But the same could be said for Vassell, Williams, Achiuwa or Smith at 10...

 

[Mainstreet]

The current mock at Tankathon has Precious Achiuwa going #10 to the Suns. I would be pleased with this selection if it went that way.

 

[Finito]

But the same could be said for Vassell, Williams, Achiuwa or Smith at 10...

alright I don’t wanna hear you cry when we don’t draft a PF.

 

[AzStevenCal]

But the same could be said for Vassell, Williams, Achiuwa or Smith at 10...

As far as I know, probably, but I'm hoping the front office knows what they're doing. And there's no denying we need help at the power forward spot so Toppin has extra value over several of the rumored top picks.

 

[1Sun]

alright I don’t wanna hear you cry when we don’t draft a PF.

Williams, Achiuwa and Smith are all PFs, and Vassell fills the hole of a back-up to Booker and lets us explore trading one of our wings for a PF.

 

[Mainstreet]

Williams, Achiuwa and Smith are all PFs, and Vassell fills the hole of a back-up to Booker and lets us explore trading one of our wings for a PF.

Vassell's free throw shooting percentage over two seasons and consistently being able to score worries me a bit.

 

[Finito]

Williams, Achiuwa and Smith are all PFs, and Vassell fills the hole of a back-up to Booker and lets us explore trading one of our wings for a PF.

your setting yourself up.

 

[JerkFace]

Vassell's free throw shooting percentage over two seasons and consistently being able to score worries me a bit.

Add to that his “new shooting style” and I am starting to get scared off Vassell a bit. I still think he has the best chance to break into the top 9 though and cause one of the top 9 players to slide to us.

 

[Mainstreet]

Add to that his “new shooting style” and I am starting to get scared off Vassell a bit. I still think he has the best chance to break into the top 9 though and cause one of the top 9 players to slide to us.

Definitely Vassell is not at the top of my list although he may prove to be a good player.

After reading about all the Knicks connections to Kentucky I wouldn't be surprised if they don't trade down from number 8 to get him.

 

[1Sun]

Definitely Vassell is not at the top of my list although he may prove to be a good player.

After reading about all the Knicks connections to Kentucky I wouldn't be surprised if they don't trade down from number 8 to get him.

You're thinking of Tyrese Maxey...

 

[1Sun]

your setting yourself up.

For what? Besides, I get the feeling that if James Jones pulls the trade, he reaches for Haliburton at 2, giving us no means left to get a power forward...

 

[Mainstreet]

You're thinking of Tyrese Maxey...

Yes, I was talking about Maxey in the second paragraph. It will be tantalizing for the Knicks to go after him.

 

[Beaver]

Saw a proposal on my news feed. Oubre and #10 for Kevin Love and #5. Love seems like a good fit next to Ayton. His contract sucks though.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Saw a proposal on my news feed. Oubre and #10 for Kevin Love and #5. Love seems like a good fit next to Ayton. His contract sucks though.

Yeah, that's not going to work for us. Maybe if he was on a discount deal but he's still owed 90 million over the next 3 seasons so not a chance we'd be interested - especially in today's Covid dominated market.

 

[1Sun]

Yeah, that's not going to work for us. Maybe if he was on a discount deal but he's still owed 90 million over the next 3 seasons so not a chance we'd be interested - especially in today's Covid dominated market.

Plus he is majorly on the decline.

 

[Mainstreet]

So the rumor is the Cavaliers would like the Suns to trade them a good young player in Oubre for taking on an additional $75 million of Kevin Love's contract. And for doing so, they will let the Suns move up 5 spots in the draft by swapping picks.

If anything, #5 should be attached to Kevin Love's contract with no pick in return.

Regardless, I'm not a fan of this trade.

 

[AzStevenCal]

So the rumor is the Cavaliers would like the Suns to trade them a good young player in Oubre for taking on an additional $75 million of Kevin Love's contract. And for doing so, they will let the Suns move up 5 spots in the draft by swapping picks.

If anything, #5 should be attached to Kevin Love's contract with no pick in return.

Regardless, I'm not a fan of this trade.

In this market and considering that Love has always had availability issues, is showing considerable decline, has never impacted the game commensurate with his stats and even when the contract was signed was grossly overpaid, I'm thinking it should be Love plus the 5 and a future unprotected number 1 for the 10 pick alone and even then I'd pass.

 

[Mainstreet]

In this market and considering that Love has always had availability issues, is showing considerable decline, has never impacted the game commensurate with his stats and even when the contract was signed was grossly overpaid, I'm thinking it should be Love plus the 5 and a future unprotected number 1 for the 10 pick alone and even then I'd pass.

I think you already nailed it. You don't do it in a market where money is tight. Salary space alone is very valuable.

If the Suns had more salary space I would be sitting back waiting for offers of players and picks.

 

[Finito]

Saw a proposal on my news feed. Oubre and #10 for Kevin Love and #5. Love seems like a good fit next to Ayton. His contract sucks though.

yikes

I laugh and hand up on them