Suns Vs Sixers Game Thread

[Cheesebeef]

I just really hope to be proven wrong and want to see us win the title this year with everyone on board. I know it would be an extremely risky move sending off Marion as chemistry can be so important. Hell, all we have to do is look back to the Majerle trade/letting Danny Ainge go to see how the chemistry totally changed the Barkley/KJ era.

it's not really that I undervalue Marion, I just think KG is a sleeping giant who would find the fountain of youth and do whatever it took to win if he got on a winner again, even defering to Amare and Nash.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I didn't say they'd do it, I said it makes more sense than Marion/Thomas. And sure, picks would probably be necessary.

For salary cap reasons, Minnesota will have to take a big contract back. Marion has only two years left, so that's not bad. One year would be even better, but not if the Wolves want any continuity at all. You think they'd rather trade him for Odom?

Who's the "guy in his 30's"? Marion is 28 and Bell just turned 30. Garnett is the old man of the group, four months older than Bell.

It's pointless to debate which teams would accept which trade packages, but I think we can at least talk about which packages are more or less attractive than others.

I was talking about Bell - if they're giving up Garnett, they're going to be looking for youth and by the time that trade went down, likely next offseason, Bell will be 31 and Marion as we all know is a complimentary player.

I agree about the pointless debate, but I do think that an Odom/Bynum package is better than anything the Suns could throw out there, unless we were to throw Barbs into it and I'd be pissed if we gave up both Barbs and Marion and a pick.

 

[elindholm]

I agree about the pointless debate, but I do think that an Odom/Bynum package is better than anything the Suns could throw out there, unless we were to throw Barbs into it and I'd be pissed if we gave up both Barbs and Marion and a pick.

I agree, but the Lakers aren't trading Bynum, not even for Garnett.

 

[Nash]

I agree, but the Lakers aren't trading Bynum, not even for Garnett.

Lew will go pissin' all over Laker Land if that were to happen.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I agree about the pointless debate, but I do think that an Odom/Bynum package is better than anything the Suns could throw out there, unless we were to throw Barbs into it and I'd be pissed if we gave up both Barbs and Marion and a pick.

I agree, but the Lakers aren't trading Bynum, not even for Garnett.

yeah, that's probably true.

 

[sly fly]

If you have what it takes to get Kevin Garnett on your team... you do it. In a heartbeat.

The Suns have the players to get it done.

Marion would have to be the centerpiece to this deal. The Atlanta picks would cause any GM to salivate. The possibility of parlaying them into Greg Oden or Kevin Durant could be too hard to pass up.

However, I'm not into just giving Marion or any other core player away. In my mind, Marion is practically untouchable due to his regular season abilities and penchant for playing hard almost every night. It's very difficult to find players like that.

 

[Cheesebeef]

If you have what it takes to get Kevin Garnett on your team... you do it. In a heartbeat.

The Suns have the players to get it done.

Marion would have to be the centerpiece to this deal. The Atlanta picks would cause any GM to salivate. The possibility of parlaying them into Greg Oden or Kevin Durant could be too hard to pass up.

However, I'm not into just giving Marion or any other core player away. In my mind, Marion is practically untouchable due to his regular season abilities and penchant for playing hard almost every night. It's very difficult to find players like that.

yeah, KG's pretty much the only "attainable" guy who I'd consider dealing Marion for.

 

[SirStefan32]

Garnett is a much better playmaker (assists) and gets to the line far more often.

AND KG is a leader. He can take his team and carry them. Marion can not.

I just don't see anybody in their right mind trade Garnett for Marion and throw-ins, unless there are some lottery picks thrown in there.

 

[JCSunsfan]

huh? How can Marion's #s have been better than KG's across the board when KG has averaged more points, rebounds and assists and blocks throughout the course of his career? If Marion's numbers were typically better, wouldn't logic dictate the opposite in those numbers, either by year or by career, or at least in ONE of those years? Really a head scratcher there also.

I was not trying to make a significant point here. I was just looking at the last two years or so. Their numbers have been eerily similar in that time frame. In fact, the numbers across the board are so close its really hard to argue one having a statistical advantage over the other (last two years).

Like everyone else says. It isn't going to happen though. So there's no use arguing over it.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I was not trying to make a significant point here. I was just looking at the last two years or so. Their numbers have been eerily similar in that time frame. In fact, the numbers across the board are so close its really hard to argue one having a statistical advantage over the other (last two years).

eerily similar the last two years? They may have been last year, but two years ago, KG was the MVP, averaged 3 more rebound per game, 4 more assists and 3 more points.

I can see the statistical similarities last year to an extent (even though KG averaged one more reboound and doouble the amount of asst), but that's really the only year the two guys were comparable, numbers wise.

I really just don't see the numbers across the board being all that similar.