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I'll leave it up to Londonpete, Mitch and others to guess the final 53, but I'm just trying to come up with the surprise cut and one suprise guy making the team.
1. Surprise Go-Joey Porter. He has been decent in coverage, but, imo, hasn't shown any pass rush ability in the PS. And that's supposed to be his Raison d'Etre.
2. Surprise Stay-Cyril Obiozer. He's younger, cheaper and has shown some PR. I was going to say Quan Sturdivant, who has shown next to nothing, but feel that the team might have seen something in College to keep him around.
 

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I'll leave it up to Londonpete, Mitch and others to guess the final 53, but I'm just trying to come up with the surprise cut and one suprise guy making the team.
1. Surprise Go-Joey Porter. He has been decent in coverage, but, imo, hasn't shown any pass rush ability in the PS. And that's supposed to be his Raison d'Etre.
2. Surprise Stay-Cyril Obiozer. He's younger, cheaper and has shown some PR. I was going to say Quan Sturdivant, who has shown next to nothing, but feel that the team might have seen something in College to keep him around.

I'd be fine with both.
 

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I'll leave it up to Londonpete, Mitch and others to guess the final 53, but I'm just trying to come up with the surprise cut and one suprise guy making the team.
1. Surprise Go-Joey Porter. He has been decent in coverage, but, imo, hasn't shown any pass rush ability in the PS. And that's supposed to be his Raison d'Etre.
2. Surprise Stay-Cyril Obiozer. He's younger, cheaper and has shown some PR. I was going to say Quan Sturdivant, who has shown next to nothing, but feel that the team might have seen something in College to keep him around.

Maybe Porter is gone but I dont think it would be for Obiozer. I havent seen the pass rush that would garner a spot on the team, so if Porter goes it would be for a guy who is cut from another team IMO.

Obiozer hasnt exactly been lighting it up in practice that we have heard of, and in 3 preseason games he has a grand total of 2 tackles and 1 QB pressure. Against 3rd and 4th string scrubs.
 

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Surprise GO: Pork Chop Womack
Surprise stay: Anthony Baptiste
 

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There's no one to replace Porter, and as long as we see Schofield on the return unit tomorrow night, I have no reason to believe that we'll let Porter go. He reduced his salary, and generally that's a guarantee to a player that he'll make the roster.

Surprise Cut: Jim Dray, TE, Stanford. :sniff: He's my boy, but Darren Urban has stopped replying to my tweets propping him up. Maybe he'll come back after we cut Alphonso Smith as the FA RB we sign will come up to speed.

Surprise Keep: Kris O'Dowd, C, Southern Cal. Did you know that Ben Claxton is 31 years old?
 

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There's no one to replace Porter, and as long as we see Schofield on the return unit tomorrow night, I have no reason to believe that we'll let Porter go. He reduced his salary, and generally that's a guarantee to a player that he'll make the roster.

Surprise Cut: Jim Dray, TE, Stanford. :sniff: He's my boy, but Darren Urban has stopped replying to my tweets propping him up. Maybe he'll come back after we cut Alphonso Smith as the FA RB we sign will come up to speed.

Surprise Keep: Kris O'Dowd, C, Southern Cal. Did you know that Ben Claxton is 31 years old?

K9,

O'Dowd goes to the PS....no surprise here. Claxton is liked, but Hadnot can play C....we need room for depth at other positions.

Jim Dray....is he PS eligible? If so, he goes there, otherwise, he is gone, I agree. See above re: other positions of depth.
 

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My surprise Go: John Skelton, High Ankle sprains can take a long time to heal, and Wiz may waive-Inj him, hoping to get him back after he heals.
My surprise Stay: Brodie Croyle, Wiz will not go with 2 QBs.
 

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Jim Dray is not eligible for the PS, as he was in all 16 games last year.
Same as Max Hall and Max Komar.
 

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K9,

O'Dowd goes to the PS....no surprise here. Claxton is liked, but Hadnot can play C....we need room for depth at other positions.

Jim Dray....is he PS eligible? If so, he goes there, otherwise, he is gone, I agree. See above re: other positions of depth.

I don't know if you can pay three OCs--even if one is on the PS. Hadnot's the swing OL and hasn't played OC in God Know's When unless he's getting practice reps somewhere in camp or something.

Dray is not PS eligible. I hope he makes the team over Steven Spach just by virtue of being a draft pick and good special teams player
 

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My surprise Go: John Skelton, High Ankle sprains can take a long time to heal, and Wiz may waive-Inj him, hoping to get him back after he heals.
My surprise Stay: Brodie Croyle, Wiz will not go with 2 QBs.

Nope,..... Skelton stays, may end up as #3 due to his ankle sprain, but ahead of Croyle, IMHO.
 

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Pork Chop Womack is not a surprise go, unless he really shows something in PS4, he is behind too many people to make the team.
 

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There's no one to replace Porter, and as long as we see Schofield on the return unit tomorrow night, I have no reason to believe that we'll let Porter go. He reduced his salary, and generally that's a guarantee to a player that he'll make the roster.

Surprise Cut: Jim Dray, TE, Stanford. :sniff: He's my boy, but Darren Urban has stopped replying to my tweets propping him up. Maybe he'll come back after we cut Alphonso Smith as the FA RB we sign will come up to speed.

Surprise Keep: Kris O'Dowd, C, Southern Cal. Did you know that Ben Claxton is 31 years old?

I like the premise of this thread. Those were my picks.
 

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Nope,..... Skelton stays, may end up as #3 due to his ankle sprain, but ahead of Croyle, IMHO.

He could go on the PUP making him ineligible for the first 6 games. I think that is the way it works. Croyle could be the third string qb and let go when Skelton returns off the PUP.
We just don't know how bad his injury is at the point.
 

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Jim Dray, if he makes the team, it will be because of special teams.
I think S. Spach is aware of this, and is the backup LS to provide
his own special team ability. The question is whether Wiz will go
with the youth or older guy. However, I think King will take Spach's
TE spot, squeezing out Spach.
 

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He could go on the PUP making him ineligible for the first 6 games. I think that is the way it works. Croyle could be the third string qb and let go when Skelton returns off the PUP.
We just don't know how bad his injury is at the point.

You cant be put on the PUP if you have practiced in training camp or played in a preseason game.
 

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He could go on the PUP making him ineligible for the first 6 games. I think that is the way it works. Croyle could be the third string qb and let go when Skelton returns off the PUP.
We just don't know how bad his injury is at the point.

I could see it play out this way.
 

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You cant be put on the PUP if you have practiced in training camp or played in a preseason game.

Ruined my best hope. I still think waive-inj depending on how long they think to recover from the ankle sprain. Sometimes this is a 6 to 8 week recovery, and keeping him may not be practical in that case. This is his second week after the injury.
 
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Nick Eason is another guy I wondered about. Don't recall his name being called very often in any PS games. Though he has gotten a lot of reps and does have the right pedigree (former Steeler).
 

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Nick Eason is another guy I wondered about. Don't recall his name being called very often in any PS games. Though he has gotten a lot of reps and does have the right pedigree (former Steeler).

Eason has been placing on the nose and he has been occupying blockers so D. Washington and S. Bradley, et.al. can make the tackles. I also believe his versitility to play DE and NT will keep him on the team. Although, I will say I like the V. Holliday trade much better now than I did at the time.
 

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There's no one to replace Porter, and as long as we see Schofield on the return unit tomorrow night, I have no reason to believe that we'll let Porter go. He reduced his salary, and generally that's a guarantee to a player that he'll make the roster.

Surprise Cut: Jim Dray, TE, Stanford. :sniff: He's my boy, but Darren Urban has stopped replying to my tweets propping him up. Maybe he'll come back after we cut Alphonso Smith as the FA RB we sign will come up to speed.

Surprise Keep: Kris O'Dowd, C, Southern Cal. Did you know that Ben Claxton is 31 years old?

This is my thoughts as well. Only concern about O'Dowd is how much playing time he gets tomorrow. If none then he is gone.
 

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My surprise Go: John Skelton, High Ankle sprains can take a long time to heal, and Wiz may waive-Inj him, hoping to get him back after he heals.
My surprise Stay: Brodie Croyle, Wiz will not go with 2 QBs.
why would he take the chance of losing him? A sprained ankle is really not that big of deal to a 2nd/3rd string QB. Didn't they trade up for Skelton? He has too many tools to be exposed to other teams.

Surprise cut: I hope I'm wrong but it could be Deuce, he's still not running with the 1's and doesn't appear to be in shape yet.
 

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why would he take the chance of losing him? A sprained ankle is really not that big of deal to a 2nd/3rd string QB. Didn't they trade up for Skelton? He has too many tools to be exposed to other teams.

Surprise cut: I hope I'm wrong but it could be Deuce, he's still not running with the 1's and doesn't appear to be in shape yet.

Deuce didn't run with the ones all preseason last year, either. This would be a pure example of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, because Rex Hadnot hasn't done much of anything this preseason.
 

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Pork Chop Womack is not a surprise go, unless he really shows something in PS4, he is behind too many people to make the team.

A guy who started 15 games last year being displaced by UDFA is a surprise to me.


(If it happens)
 

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