Suspended Indefinitely

[schutd]

Artest
Jackson
O'Neal
Wallace.

EDIT: to avoid confusion, I mean Ben Wallace...

Nice start, NBA. Lets not make indefinitely any less than say 10-15 games. Make it fecking sting.

 

[carey]

I agree. In my opinion they need to be out at least 1/2 the season. Without pay.

 

[nathan]

What did Ben Wallace do besides push Artest?

 

[jbeecham]

Is it Ben Wallace or Rasheed Wallace on the list? Neither of them deserve to be suspended indefinately. Rasheed did go into the stands a little, but only trying to calm people down and didn't put a hand on anyone. Ben shoved Artest and threw a towel at him, which is usually a 2 game suspension.

 

[Joe Mama]

What did Ben Wallace do besides push Artest?

Wallace should be facing a decent suspension, but I hope they don't try to group in with these other players. I didn't watch the entire game. I've heard that there was a lot of stuff going on between the players though. When I saw the foul that led to the fight I couldn't believe he was bad upset about it. I think it would have been that joke to even consider that a flagrant foul. Like I said earlier there are fouls much harder than that in virtually every NBA game.

I just do not think it is fair to group in with these other players who were completely out of line.

Joe Mama

 

[D-Dogg]

5 games max for all players.

Fans tickets should be revoked.

 

[Chaz]

What did Ben Wallace do besides push Artest?

Nothing.

He will probably be suspended a game or two for retalitating on the foul.

 

[slinslin]

Nothing.

He will probably be suspended a game or two for retalitating on the foul.

He threw his sweat band at Artest when Artest was laying on the scorers table seconds before the fan threw a beer.

I mean Wallace might have animated the fans to throw things at Artest.

 

[schutd]

Nothing.

He will probably be suspended a game or two for retalitating on the foul.

He did run into the stands after Artest. I dont think anything further happened, but generally speaking, doing that kind of thing, regardless of your involvement, will get a you a couple more.

Wallace esentially started the whole thing for flying off the handle like he did. I think hes a culpable as any of them.

 

[Chaplin]

Wallace esentially started the whole thing for flying off the handle like he did. I think hes a culpable as any of them.

Couldn't agree more--Wallace's bad outburst was the fuel that made the fans explode like that.

 

[jbeecham]

Couldn't agree more--Wallace's bad outburst was the fuel that made the fans explode like that.

Why don't we pass the blame some more and blame the officials for calling the game the way they did, which pissed off the fans & the pistons players, which made Ben Wallace react the way he did to Ron Artests foul, which led to everything else.

 

[Chaz]

He did run into the stands after Artest. I dont think anything further happened, but generally speaking, doing that kind of thing, regardless of your involvement, will get a you a couple more.

Wallace esentially started the whole thing for flying off the handle like he did. I think hes a culpable as any of them.

I didn't see Ben Wallace leave the court at all untill he went to the lockeroom.


Also these types of things happen on the court sometimes. The difference this time was Artest charging into the stands.

 

[Joe Mama]

I believe it was were Rasheed Wallace who went into the fans after the Pacers were up there. It didn't look like he was throwing blows with anybody though.

Again, I didn't watch the entire game. I stop bits and pieces during the commercials for the Phoenix Suns game. However many of you have said that the game was very rough. If that's true perhaps the officials do deserve to be criticized and deserve some of the blame for the outcome. Part of their job is to keep the game from getting out of control like it did in the end.

Joe Mama

 

[jbeecham]

I was being sarcastic about blaming the officials (although they probably do share some of the blame). No one is responsible for Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson & Jermaine O'Neal's actions but themselves. They all chose to do what they did and they need to live with the consequences. Sure Artest was provoked, but he chose to go after the fan he thought threw the cup.

BTW there was also a guy in a brown suit that clocked the fans that came onto the floor. Anyone know who that was? It looked like a Pacers assistant coach or something.

 

[Chaplin]

Why don't we pass the blame some more and blame the officials for calling the game the way they did, which pissed off the fans & the pistons players, which made Ben Wallace react the way he did to Ron Artests foul, which led to everything else.

Even though you didn't mean too, this furthers the point. It should never have gotten to that point. You gotta figure that the fans were already ticked about the officiating, and when their favorite player all of a sudden flies off the handle, like Wallace did, that definitely inspires some fans (especially those that had been drinking) into reacting like they did.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

I believe it was were Rasheed Wallace who went into the fans after the Pacers were up there. It didn't look like he was throwing blows with anybody though.

Sheed was up there trying to calm people down. Of all people, Rasheed Wallace was the main player trying to stop it all. Who ever saw that coming??

 

[JS22]

Wallace should be facing a decent suspension, but I hope they don't try to group in with these other players. I didn't watch the entire game. I've heard that there was a lot of stuff going on between the players though. When I saw the foul that led to the fight I couldn't believe he was bad upset about it. I think it would have been that joke to even consider that a flagrant foul. Like I said earlier there are fouls much harder than that in virtually every NBA game.

I just do not think it is fair to group in with these other players who were completely out of line.

Joe Mama

I think Artest was riding Ben all night. Ben just snapped. Hell, I'd do the same thing. There was no reason whatosever that Artest should have shoved Wallace in the back on that dunk. The Pacers were up by, what, 15? With less than a minutes to go also.

It was probably one of those "last straw" reactions. Wallace just snapped.

 

[Joe Mama]

I think Artest was riding Ben all night. Ben just snapped. Hell, I'd do the same thing. There was no reason whatosever that Artest should have shoved Wallace in the back on that dunk. The Pacers were up by, what, 15? With less than a minutes to go also.

It was probably one of those "last straw" reactions. Wallace just snapped.

I'll have to watch that again. I saw it a couple of times this morning, and I didn't think that there was much contact at all.

Joe Mama

 

[JCSunsfan]

He threw his sweat band at Artest when Artest was laying on the scorers table seconds before the fan threw a beer.

I mean Wallace might have animated the fans to throw things at Artest.

That's crap. Artest was taunting everyone, and then, instead of calling security to eject a rowdy fan, he goes into the stupid crowd himself.

Every player that went into the stands should be suspended indefinitely.

Every fan that came out on the court should be charged with criminal trespassing.

As long as players stay on the court and fans stay off, this type of stuff can be managed. Everyone has some blame here, but Artest carries the most--by far.

 

[elindholm]

All "indefinitely" means in this case is, "We know there will be suspensions, but we haven't figured out how long they'll be yet, and the Pacers have a game today." It's not like the players are going to have to apply for reinstatement.

 

[scotsman13]

chap, you are right. and what is more is i think that the nba is going to look at the whole game and see the hard fouls that were being given out all game long and really enforce the rules harder for the rest of the season.

 

[sunsfn]

Ben Wallace is very guilty on this deal.

If he would have went to the foul line and shot his free throws, none of this would have happened. But instead he went after Artest and all hell broke loose. (you can forget about the foul by Artest in this, fouls happen all the time and this was not considered a flagrant foul)

I think Wallace will get a huge suspension and he deserves it.

The players that went into the stands deserve a huge suspension also, just for doing that.

I had just switched chanels to see the score and that was when the fight was breaking out, I could not believe the events that took place in the next few minutes. This is going to have many many repercussions on the NBA game for a long time.

 

[devilalum]

Where was the Piston's security?

The Piston's organization should be fined big for not providing proper security. You're talking about one of the most volitile markets in pro sports and I didn't see a single security guard, usher or any other event security on any of the tape the showed on ESPN last night.

When Artest finally left the building his security was provided byan assistant coach while fans pelted him with everything imaginable.

Most arenas provide security guards to help players off the court after simple ejections.

Detroit is a toilet.

 

[Gee!]

and really enforce the rules harder for the rest of the season.

Just great. Now Shaq will be on the line for even more lil crap.

 

[Gee!]

college football brawl just happened. the coaches are blaming this fight for their fight. saying the kids have been watching it all day on the news. thats their justification.