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Is the term "swarming defense" something that applies only to small ball teams like the Suns and Warriors? What is the term used for the type of defense that teams like the Mavericks and Spurs play?
 

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Is the term "swarming defense" something that applies only to small ball teams like the Suns and Warriors? What is the term used for the type of defense that teams like the Mavericks and Spurs play?


trap/pressure??
 

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Warriors play swarming/prison rules defense. The Suns play semi-permeable/no defense.
 

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Warriors play swarming/prison rules defense. The Suns play semi-permeable/no defense.
Yet the Suns hold opponents to a average lower field goal % than the Warriors and have a better defensive efficiency score.
 

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Yet the Suns hold opponents to a average lower field goal % than the Warriors and have a better defensive efficiency score.

Those are just names. I made no judgment either way.
 

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Warriors play swarming/prison rules defense. The Suns play semi-permeable/no defense.

Wow, the "semi permeable/ no defense" works better in every measure. the suns are better defensively in FG% allowed(15th in nba) than the warriors(20th), better at 3pt defense, better at scoring defense. I guess crime(prison rules) doesnt pay. The suns FG% defense is actually better than the spurs. I guess the spurs play "popaflop" defense.
 

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Wow, the "semi permeable/ no defense" works better in every measure. the suns are better defensively in FG% allowed(15th in nba) than the warriors(20th), better at 3pt defense, better at scoring defense. I guess crime(prison rules) doesnt pay. The suns FG% defense is actually better than the spurs. I guess the spurs play "popaflop" defense.

It depends.......if the refs are letting players mug each other without calling fouls then the Warriors defense is better because the refs let them create a lot of steals (like they did against Dallas last year in the playoffs). It doesn't matter though because no one actually believes the Suns play good defense despite statistics.
 

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Since when did prison rules defense = good defense? The Suns and Warriors both play crappy defense, just in different ways. I don't understand how there could be a statistic saying that the Suns don't suck at defense. The only thing that proves to me is that is a misleading stat, because the Suns play terrible defense. This season they are worse than in previous years.
 

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Since when did prison rules defense = good defense? The Suns and Warriors both play crappy defense, just in different ways. I don't understand how there could be a statistic saying that the Suns don't suck at defense. The only thing that proves to me is that is a misleading stat, because the Suns play terrible defense. This season they are worse than in previous years.

Popovich says the opposite, that the suns are closing out shooters better than in the past. this year the suns %FG's abd % 3 pt defense is better than it has been in a while and both are better than the spurs.
 

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Popovich says the opposite, that the suns are closing out shooters better than in the past. this year the suns %FG's abd % 3 pt defense is better than it has been in a while and both are better than the spurs.
Popovich also said that the Suns rebounding is better this season than last which is pretty clearly a load of crap.
 
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