Take the GM hat off D'Antoni, Give it to Griffin

[The Commish]

This is probably the most important offseason we've had in a long time. In my opinion, it will make or break our title chances and possibly the future of the team. I simply cannot trust D'Antoni to make the right decisions for this club when it comes to personnel. David Griffin, long time director of personnel and assistant GM is being wooed by Memphis to become their new General Manager. We cannot lose him.

There should be a separation between coach and front office. With D'Antoni conducting both jobs it creats an awkward situation with the players because he is involved with the business side of the game. If this team is to have any chance of a title and maintain a solid foundation for the future we must let Griffin be the GM and Mike D'Antoni the head coach. We need experience right now, not someone learning on the fly.

 

[NastyOne]

This is probably the most important offseason we've had in a long time. In my opinion, it will make or break our title chances and possibly the future of the team. I simply cannot trust D'Antoni to make the right decisions for this club when it comes to personnel. David Griffin, long time director of personnel and assistant GM is being wooed by Memphis to become their new General Manager. We cannot lose him.

There should be a separation between coach and front office. With D'Antoni conducting both jobs it creats an awkward situation with the players because he is involved with the business side of the game. If this team is to have any chance of a title and maintain a solid foundation for the future we must let Griffin be the GM and Mike D'Antoni the head coach. We need experience right now, not someone learning on the fly.

Great post and i agree with everything, especially the part in bold.

Not to mention DA hasnt proven anything in this league to even have this job.

There are way more qualified personal throughout the NBA that can do a way better job.

 

[Errntknght]

D'Antoni's only sensible move as a GM was to try to get Salmons and he flubbed that in the end. One might give him some credit for signing Banks except he should have known that the head coach would be a disaster at handling him. I guess he gets a grade of 'incomplete' for the trade that netted us the 24th pick in the upcoming draft.

After that total fiasco, giving Griff a shot at GM stands out a mile.

 

[Dan H]

D'Antoni's only sensible move as a GM was to try to get Salmons and he flubbed that in the end. One might give him some credit for signing Banks except he should have known that the head coach would be a disaster at handling him. I guess he gets a grade of 'incomplete' for the trade that netted us the 24th pick in the upcoming draft.

After that total fiasco, giving Griff a shot at GM stands out a mile.

The 24th pick is the pick from the Antonio McDyess deal. D'Antoni wasn't even here then.

I read something about Griffin going to Memphis to talk to them. Hopefully they'll give him a promotion to GM.

 

[Muggum]

I thought it was Bryan Colangelo who wanted Salmons originally, though, not D'Antoni.

 

[green machine]

I thought it was Bryan Colangelo who wanted Salmons originally, though, not D'Antoni.

They both did, and that was the problem.

 

[Errntknght]

Dan H,

The 24th pick is the pick from the Antonio McDyess deal. D'Antoni wasn't even here then.

How did we get a pick out of a McDyess deal? I'd really like to know how that happened...

 

[Diawsome]

Dan H,

How did we get a pick out of a McDyess deal? I'd really like to know how that happened...

The 24th pick came from the draft night deal we made with Boston last year. Suns got Cleveland's pick in this year's draft which ended up as the 24th for the 21st pick last year (Rajon Rondo) and the contract of Brian Grant.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The 24th pick came from the draft night deal we made with Boston last year. Suns got Cleveland's pick in this year's draft which ended up as the 24th for the 21st pick last year (Rajon Rondo) and the contract of Brian Grant.

Yep, thats what I thought too.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yep, thats what I thought too.

Again, so the rights to the 24th pick last season came from Atlanta in the JJ trade?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Again, so the rights to the 24th pick last season came from Atlanta in the JJ trade?

If last season, you mean the 2005-2006 season, we had the 21st and 27th picks.

If you are talking about the 24th pick in this upcoming draft,

Phoenix receives a 2007 Cleveland first-round pick. (Rajon Rondo trade 062806) (top 10 protected through 2010 and unprotected after) via Boston receives a 2007 Cleveland first-round pick. (Jiri Welsh trade 022405)

 

[Diawsome]

Again, so the rights to the 24th pick last season came from Atlanta in the JJ trade?

In a sense I believe it did.

The Joe Johnson Trade
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/johnson_traded_050819.html

The Suns will receive Atlanta's own first round pick no later than the 2008 NBA Draft. That pick which is "lottery" protected (1-14) in 2006, has protection through No. 3 in 2007 and has no protection in 2008. In addition the Suns will also receive a conditional first round pick via either the Los Angeles Lakers or Boston Celtics from an earlier trade between Boston and Atlanta. The Laker pick which is subject to protection through No. 10 in 2006, protection through No. 5 in draft years 2007-2010 and unconditional in 2011, is owed to Boston from yet another previous trade. In the year that the Laker pick is conveyed to Boston, Phoenix will receive the least favorable of Boston's own pick or the Laker pick.

The Brian Grant trade
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2006/news/story?id=2503390

The Celtics acquired Kentucky guard Rajon Rondo, the No. 21 pick overall, and veteran forward Brian Grant from the Phoenix Suns. In return, the Suns will acquire a future first round pick the Celtics acquired from the Cavaliers in exchange for swingman Jiri Welsch.

The #21 pick in the 2006 draft was 1 of the 1st rounders Atlanta sent to Phoenix as part of the Joe Johnson trade which the Suns then turned around and dealt to Boston for Cleveland's 1st rounder this year (#24)

To correct ESPN Rajon Rando was the #21 pick in the draft.

 

[Mainstreet]

If you are talking about the 24th pick in this upcoming draft,

I probably could have stated it better, but if the Suns use the 24th pick in this draft and Atlanta's pick next season on players they keep, the Suns will finally see the missing pieces from the JJ trade. Of course the Suns also received Diaw and used the TE that was created to sign James Jones.

 

[Mainstreet]

In a sense I believe it did.

The Joe Johnson Trade
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/johnson_traded_050819.html



The Brian Grant trade
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2006/news/story?id=2503390



The #21 pick in the 2006 draft was 1 of the 1st rounders Atlanta sent to Phoenix as part of the Joe Johnson trade which the Suns then turned around and dealt to Boston for Cleveland's 1st rounder this year (#24)

To correct ESPN Rajon Rando was the #21 pick in the draft.

So the jury is still out.

 

[elindholm]

I probably could have stated it better, but if the Suns use the 24th pick in this draft and Atlanta's pick next season on players they keep, the Suns will finally see the missing pieces from the JJ trade. Of course the Suns also received Diaw and used the TE that was created to sign James Jones.

As things currently stand, it was Johnson for Diaw, Jones, and two late first-round picks. I think we'd have to say that the Suns got jobbed. But the thing about trades is that you never know how players are going to pan out, so I don't fault management for the deal. It looked good at the time.

 

[mr_sunshine]

As things currently stand, it was Johnson for Diaw, Jones, and two late first-round picks. I think we'd have to say that the Suns got jobbed. But the thing about trades is that you never know how players are going to pan out, so I don't fault management for the deal. It looked good at the time.

Agreed. You never know... Boris may play well again if we get rid of Marion. I know he and Marion worked well with Amare out, but maybe without Marion in the mix he can do well with Amare.

 

[Mainstreet]

As things currently stand, it was Johnson for Diaw, Jones, and two late first-round picks. I think we'd have to say that the Suns got jobbed. But the thing about trades is that you never know how players are going to pan out, so I don't fault management for the deal. It looked good at the time.

I don't think the Suns got jobbed by Atlanta except their tanking this past season. In fact, there was a whole school of thought that Atlanta could have had JJ for nothing more than salary (if they had stood their ground) because the Suns may not have matched... even though Sarver said he would. Again the mistake was made the year prior when the Suns did not extend JJ for a reported 50 million.

So I look at the return on JJ as some exceptional work by BC. The Suns could have well ended up with nothing. The Suns still have two first round draft picks despite their long journey. Also I still have hope for Diaw if the Suns ever figure out how to use him. In regard to James Jones, he's a nice bench player.

 

[Milgod]

As things currently stand, it was Johnson for Diaw, Jones, and two late first-round picks. I think we'd have to say that the Suns got jobbed. But the thing about trades is that you never know how players are going to pan out, so I don't fault management for the deal. It looked good at the time.

Hold on, it's a damn sight better than Johnson for nothing as it could have gone.

Johnson would have continued to bitch about being the 4th option and that wouldn't have helped the locker room.

 

[dodie53]

diaw will have a 180 degree turn..
he will come alive next season..

i hope..