Tanaka is DBacks #1 Target

[BC867]

It is fun to dream, but do any of us D'backs fans believe that we have a snowball's chance in hell of outbidding the high-rolling teams of MLB for Tanaka?

Seriously, is there any reason to believe that we can wind up with a 25 year old who went 24-0 with a 1.27 ERA and 183/32 K/BB ratio in 212 innings, no matter what professional league it was in?

 

[AZ Native]

What is you saying? That we might get outbid by a 200+ mil a year team?

 

[UncleChris]

Sure glad this salary cap(MLB Luxury Tax) thingy is working..... Oh....wait....

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[AZ Native]

Sure glad this salary cap(MLB Luxury Tax) thingy is working..... Oh....wait....

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[overseascardfan]

What is you saying? That we might get outbid by a 200+ mil a year team?

It sucks because Towers is going to make an attempt but all the speculation that ARZ has a legit chance to land him is really inaccurate as we all know. I just think ARZ needs to focus on more realistic options such as Chris Sale.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Being reported that Tanaka will garner between $17 million and $20 million per year!
That has Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, Rangers, Angels written all over it... Maybe the Cubbies finally take a shot. But there is no chance the Dbacks will pony up that kind if coin...


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[Brian]

Being reported that Tanaka will garner between $17 million and $20 million per year!
That has Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, Rangers, Angels written all over it... Maybe the Cubbies finally take a shot. But there is no chance the Dbacks will pony up that kind if coin...


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Not so sure. Many outlets have said that the Dbacks have been focusing on him for a long time, they had to have known all along that he would command that kind of salary.

Baseball has gotten so crazy with spending that it's gotten to the point that 20 million doesn't seem like alot to me anymore. Seems like teams are using monopoly money.

Edit: Plus, I think the Choo deal took the Rangers out of it. We'll see.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

I think the number of years rather than the money per season would be the most likely limiting factor.

 

[overseascardfan]

Not so sure. Many outlets have said that the Dbacks have been focusing on him for a long time, they had to have known all along that he would command that kind of salary.

Baseball has gotten so crazy with spending that it's gotten to the point that 20 million doesn't seem like alot to me anymore. Seems like teams are using monopoly money.

Edit: Plus, I think the Choo deal took the Rangers out of it. We'll see.

If ARZ fails to sign Tanaka and $$$ is the reason, that is to be expected. But if they are willing to pay $20M then they should be after Price and most definitely should be after Sale because his salary will come nowhere near $20M until his next deal 5 years from now. If prospects are the sticking point then I don't see why because they unloaded a bunch of young guys already and Bradley would be worth a Sale or Price if $$$ is not the issue for ARZ.

I don't think Choo's deal takes the Rangers out. TEX has owners with deep pockets unlike ARZ so I think it comes down to TEX, LAD, BOS & NYY.

 

[82CardsGrad]

If ARZ fails to sign Tanaka and $$$ is the reason, that is to be expected. But if they are willing to pay $20M then they should be after Price and most definitely should be after Sale because his salary will come nowhere near $20M until his next deal 5 years from now. If prospects are the sticking point then I don't see why because they unloaded a bunch of young guys already and Bradley would be worth a Sale or Price if $$$ is not the issue for ARZ.

I don't think Choo's deal takes the Rangers out. TEX has owners with deep pockets unlike ARZ so I think it comes down to TEX, LAD & NYY.

If $$ is not the issue, then I would much prefer to see the team go after Tanaka and keep Bradley!
But I just can't see this team ponying up $20 million per... Hope I'm wrong!!


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[Dback Jon]

If $$ is not the issue, then I would much prefer to see the team go after Tanaka and keep Bradley!
But I just can't see this team ponying up $20 million per... Hope I'm wrong!!


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Exactly - if you can get Tanaka and keep Bradley, all the better.

 

[overseascardfan]

If $$ is not the issue, then I would much prefer to see the team go after Tanaka and keep Bradley!
But I just can't see this team ponying up $20 million per... Hope I'm wrong!!


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I agree about Tanaka & keeping Bradley but I think NYY will not be outdone. I know they just shelled out major coin for Beltran & Ellsbury but they are not done until they get Tanaka.

I think BOS & NYY will be the 2 finalists, with NY winning. LA still has to get a deal done with Kershaw and that will be $200M+ and I think they go after David Price. TEX & CHI have the $$$ but the NY market & Yankee mystique usually are too much to match.

 

[Dback Jon]

I agree about Tanaka & keeping Bradley but I think NYY will not be outdone. I know they just shelled out major coin for Beltran & Ellsbury but they are not done until they get Tanaka.

I think BOS & NYY will be the 2 finalists, with NY winning. LA still has to get a deal done with Kershaw and that will be $200M+ and I think they go after David Price. TEX & CHI have the $$$ but the NY market & Yankee mystique usually are too much to match.

Price and Sale will still be there, IMHO after Tanaka is signed.


If the Dbacks don't pull off the miracle and get Tanaka, then address those two, if wanted.

And of the two, Price would be my pick, but do you want to give up Bradley for him?

 

[82CardsGrad]

Price and Sale will still be there, IMHO after Tanaka is signed.





If the Dbacks don't pull off the miracle and get Tanaka, then address those two, if wanted.



And of the two, Price would be my pick, but do you want to give up Bradley for him?

No... Because there is no guarantee Price will stick around long term. If I remember correctly, his contract is up on 2 years?


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[sundevil04]

No... Because there is no guarantee Price will stick around long term. If I remember correctly, his contract is up on 2 years?


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Prados contract was up the year after we dealt for him, but we had a contract in place when we made the trade. We could work the same deal with Price

 

[overseascardfan]

Prados contract was up the year after we dealt for him, but we had a contract in place when we made the trade. We could work the same deal with Price

Two issues with a trade for Price:

1) Will he sign a new contract with ARZ (he said he would not re-sign with SEA if they traded for him)?

2) He will command more than $20M a year, will ARZ be willing to meet his price (Prado re-signed for around $10M a year, not exactly a bank breaker)?

I think Price will wait to see what Kershaw signs for before he signs his next contract.

 

[BC867]

Baseball has gotten so crazy with spending that it's gotten to the point that 20 million doesn't seem like alot to me anymore. Seems like teams are using monopoly money.

I got a kick out of your post. When million dollar salaries first hit MLB, I made the comment that they should top out the best players at $100,000 cash and pay the rest in Monopoly money for their egos.

I didn't expect at the time that the steroids gang would require a Get Out Of Jail Free card.

Then there was the quote by Babe Ruth when he became, I think, baseball's first $100,000 player and someone said to him, "That's more than the President earns." Ruth's reply: "I had a better season". That has certainly been the case every year in our time.

 

[sundevil04]

Two issues with a trade for Price:

1) Will he sign a new contract with ARZ (he said he would not re-sign with SEA if they traded for him)?

2) He will command more than $20M a year, will ARZ be willing to meet his price (Prado re-signed for around $10M a year, not exactly a bank breaker)?

I think Price will wait to see what Kershaw signs for before he signs his next contract.

1.) if he isn't willing to then you don't make the trade

2.) word on the street is they're willing to pay that much to Tanaka so I'd have to think they'd be willing to pay that to Price

 

[AZ Native]

Some are saying the DBacks could offer 20 mil per year for 5 years and Yankees or ? will just offer a few million more. Plus it seems easier to sell New York to him than Phoenix.

 

[overseascardfan]

1.) if he isn't willing to then you don't make the trade

2.) word on the street is they're willing to pay that much to Tanaka so I'd have to think they'd be willing to pay that to Price

I think Price will ask/get more than Tanaka. You know what you got in Price, Tanaka despite his phenomenal stats in Japan is more of a crap shoot in terms of how well he will pitch. You could say well look at how well Yu Darvish is doing, but Darvish has a six pitch arsenal and I'm not sure if Tanaka is a better pitcher than Darvish who only got $60M for 6 years.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

The Rangers invested $110M total for Darvish. Wouldn't be surprising to see Tanaka cost similar.

 

[overseascardfan]

The Rangers invested $110M total for Darvish. Wouldn't be surprising to see Tanaka cost similar.

I could see Tanaka getting a contract for north of $120M not including the $20M posting fee. It all depends on the years he gets.

 

[82CardsGrad]

2.) word on the street is they're willing to pay that much to Tanaka so I'd have to think they'd be willing to pay that to Price

Paying that much to Price while also having to give up Bradley? No thank you...



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[TJ]

Some are saying the DBacks could offer 20 mil per year for 5 years and Yankees or ? will just offer a few million more. Plus it seems easier to sell New York to him than Phoenix.

A lot of times, Asian players coming directly from China, Japan, etc. want to play in markets that have a relatively large Asian population. I remember Yi Jianlian, who played in the NBA, was drafted by Milwaukee despite being told by his agent not to draft him because of Wisconsin's small Asian representation. He was eventually traded to New Jersey.

Not sure what Tanaka's priorities are aside from a large contract, but I'd venture to guess he'd rather play in New York or L.A. for the reason I stated above.

 

[AZ Native]

A lot of times, Asian players coming directly from China, Japan, etc. want to play in markets that have a relatively large Asian population. I remember Yi Jianlian, who played in the NBA, was drafted by Milwaukee despite being told by his agent not to draft him because of Wisconsin's small Asian representation. He was eventually traded to New Jersey.

Not sure what Tanaka's priorities are aside from a large contract, but I'd venture to guess he'd rather play in New York or L.A. for the reason I stated above.

Or San Francisco.