Target: David Lee

[Divide Et Impera]

I said it in another thread that we need to break the bank to get Lee here.

I think one of my trade proposals was Stat/Barbosa/Tucker/Dudley for Lee/Chandler/Jeffries/James, or something like that. Is there any question around here that Lee should be it?

I said in that thread that it won't be long before Lee takes over a more vaunted position than Amare and after the other night's game, that time may have come. I have wanted Lee here for probably 2 years, but now everyone can see what I've been talking about.

This is the ONLY trade we'd need.

Nash-JRich-Chandler-Lee-Shaq

Hill-Barnes-Amundson-James-Dragic-Lopez

 

[Folster]

That doesn't work salary wise. Amare and Barbs alone make a combined $21 mil while we are getting about 16 mil in return. Also, Dudley has a trade restriction. Giving up Barbs without getting a guard in return would leave us incredibly thin in the backcourt.

I like the idea in principle a lot (Amar'e for Lee), but you'd have to tweak the deal. There are a ton of possibilities because NY has so many mid level contracts, many that are expiring.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

The deal I posted in the other thread did work, so I'm probably leaving someone out coming into PHX, but like you said, it's about the deal in principle....

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I left out Rose coming into PHX. We'd have to wait until Feb 10th to make this trade because of Dudley's trade restriction....

 

[Folster]

What kind of relationship do you think Amar'e has with D'Antoni? I wonder if D'Antoni would okay such a deal.

 

[Bayless2Budinger]

What kind of relationship do you think Amar'e has with D'Antoni? I wonder if D'Antoni would okay such a deal.

Of course he would. He trades Lee/Chandler for Amare/Barbosa while getting rid of Jared Jeffries and Jerome James.

They could hate each other and he would do that deal.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I dunno. But NYK would still look good on the court:

Duhon-Richardson-Harrington-Stoudemire-Curry

Barbosa-Robinson-Thomas-Gallinari

I personally think D'Antoni would LOVE that rotation. The only holdover would be Curry, who I think D'Antoni would rather trade for a 4/5 type....

 

[Bayless2Budinger]

I dunno. But NYK would still look good on the court:

Duhon-Richardson-Harrington-Stoudemire-Curry

Barbosa-Robinson-Thomas-Gallinari

I personally think D'Antoni would LOVE that rotation. The only holdover would be Curry, who I think D'Antoni would rather trade for a 4/5 type....

Curry is not suddenly gonna play.

There rotation would be

Duhon
Qrich
TT or Gallinari
Harrington
Amare


They would most certainly be better than us.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I will say that you are right about TT starting, but that they would be better than us makes you crazy.

Duhon<<<<<Nash
QRich<<<<<JRich
Thomas<<Hill
Stoudemire<Lee
Harrington<Shaq

Yeah, Lee IS better than Stoudemire. He's AT LEAST on par with him and about to pass him.

We have the straight up advavntage at every position, period. It would only come down to systems and execution....

 

[Covert Rain]

Am I missing something here? David Lee??? He has shown some skill but his Opponent Per Game on defense is not that much better then Amare's. Plus his Opponent Per is better when playing Center then PF.

Plus, David Lee is not fast enough for most PF in the West. He cannot play PF in the West. He would get eaten alive on most nights. Lee would be better backing up Shaq or if Shaq wasn't here, starting at the Center position.

 

[Bayless2Budinger]

I will say that you are right about TT starting, but that they would be better than us makes you crazy.

Duhon<<<<<Nash
QRich<<<<<JRich
Thomas<<Hill
Stoudemire<Lee
Harrington<Shaq

Yeah, Lee IS better than Stoudemire. He's AT LEAST on par with him and about to pass him.

We have the straight up advavntage at every position, period. It would only come down to systems and execution....

It's all about how the pieces fit. You put our current line up against other teams right now and we look like a championship contender. I was kinda kidding about them being better though.

There is only 1 thing Lee does better than Amare and that is rebounding. Amare is better in every other facet of the game. It's not even close.

 

[elindholm]

There is only 1 thing Lee does better than Amare and that is rebounding. Amare is better in every other facet of the game. It's not even close.

Stoudemire is better than Lee, but I wouldn't go that far. Lee is also much better at moving without the ball, which creates offensive opportunities for others. Lee is also fast on the road to becoming a better defender, but he probably isn't there yet.

To be clear, Lee will never be a star, but he can become an excellent role-playing big.

 

[jandaman]

Stoudemire is better than Lee..
Its just that with the current team and style, Stoudemire needs to sacrifice offense and put effort on other things... but he doesnt.

Lee will... he will focus on getting 15 rebounds a game and boxing out because he knows the offense will not go through him.

Hence the Suns on court chemistry will improve..

problem.. O'Neal needs games off.. and or is an injury plague..

Hence why Kerr/Sarver will not trade Stoudemire unless its a "steal" for the Suns.

Getting Lee and maybe Jeffries and Chandler is okay but maybe an unprotected first... just in case.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Hell, we know D'Antoni doesn't like picks anyways, so I'd love to get a pick back as well. Bottom line is that I would be willing to break the bank to make this deal go down....

 

[arwillan]

Stoudemire is better than Lee, but I wouldn't go that far. Lee is also much better at moving without the ball, which creates offensive opportunities for others. Lee is also fast on the road to becoming a better defender, but he probably isn't there yet.

To be clear, Lee will never be a star, but he can become an excellent role-playing big.

Agreed. I think Lee's ceiling is probably not all that high. But he does all of the little things that you want. He hustles, rebounds, gives good defensive effort, and scores without demanding the ball a lot. Awesome player to have, especially on a contending team

 

[elindholm]

He hustles, rebounds, gives good defensive effort, and scores without demanding the ball a lot. Awesome player to have, especially on a contending team

Heh, that's a good description of Marion too. The only problems with Marion were that he wasn't content with his role and made way too much money. Lee would be fine on the first point, and as for the second, we'll have to see what kind of extension he gets.

 

[Bufalay]

Marion > Lee

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Marion > Lee

That has to be one of the downright stupidest things ever written....

 

[Bufalay]

That has to be one of the downright stupidest things ever written....

ok. I read someone's description of Lee and thought, wow that sounds just like Marion, except that Marion plays (played?) better defense. Maybe Marion isn't that good anymore, but as of last season he was a better player than David Lee.

 

[nashman]

Sorry but Marion is still better than David freakin Lee some of you are losing your minds! David Lee is a marginal good player in a DA offense sorry he can stay there, if we trade stat we need to get real talent back!

 

[jlove]

I would consider a deal with New York this year. With the way the Suns are playing, we need to do something. I love Amare (my fav player) and his potential, I'm growing tired of his inconsistencies.

Amare/Barbs/Tucker/Dudley
for
Chandler/Lee/Robinson/Curry/Jeffries

Here's my reasoning.....Lee surpasses Amare defensively and on the boards, plus he can score when needed. Chandler is a young gun making a name for himself. Robinson gives us what we lose in Barbosa in the back-court. We get Jeffries and Curry but they are off the books next summer with Shaq and Nash.

 

[Covert Rain]

Here's my reasoning.....Lee surpasses Amare defensively and on the boards, plus he can score when needed. Chandler is a young gun making a name for himself. Robinson gives us what we lose in Barbosa in the back-court. We get Jeffries and Curry but they are off the books next summer with Shaq and Nash.

But he does not. If you look at his numbers (Opposing player scoring by position), he is worse at defense when playing PF versus Center. He is a better defender from the Center position then Amare but not at PF. You would be asking Lee to play PF.

You cannot play him at PF. There are faster PF's out West. You want that guy guarding Power forwards? No way.

 

[mojorizen7]

Amundsen is probably a better defensive player than Lee(or will be very soon anyway).
I like Lee alot,but i would've rather had David Lee in a SUNS uni when DA was still running the show here.

 

[jandaman]

Suns technically have a Poor man's Lee... very poor.. maybe unemployed homeless version of Lee in Amundson.

High energy, hustles, strong and goes for rebounds.

 

[TBaslim]

Lee is overinflated playing in Coach D's system. Nice player, but not a superstar by any means.

Course, he might just get traded for Amare, if the Knicks cough up draft picks and expiring contracts with him. We'll see...