azdad1978
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Isn't that kinda low?
Taylor scored a 10 in Wonder test?
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kerouac9
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Miami players habitually score low on the Wunderlic. I think that Jeremy Shockey scored in the 10-13 range when he took it.
Miami atheletes have more to worry about than book-learnin'.
Miami atheletes have more to worry about than book-learnin'.
He also was out of shape and slow during his pro day.
I am souring quickly on Taylor.
I am souring quickly on Taylor.
kerouac9
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Sean Taylor = Terrell Suggs.
A lot of teams are going to be disappointed when they pass on him. One team is going to be very, very lucky if they draft him a 8 or below.
LVCARDFREAK
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Aint that the truth!~
The Wonderlic test is a steaming pile of horse $#!@.
It doesn't matter when it comes to football (or life) for any position! Phil Simms scored a 10. He was great QB, won a SB, and is now the #1 announcer on CBS.
Complete and utter BS.
It doesn't matter when it comes to football (or life) for any position! Phil Simms scored a 10. He was great QB, won a SB, and is now the #1 announcer on CBS.
Complete and utter BS.
Someone must have scored low on their test...
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azdad1978
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Originally posted by Pariah
Someone must have scored low on their test...
JeffGollin
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Yeah, the Wunderlic sucks etc. etc.
Still, you can practically score a 10 just by spelling your name right and getting the number of months in a year down pat...
One potential problem I can envision - If a highly-rated guy doesn't want to get drafted by certain teams who pick high, couldn't he sandbag the Wunderlic while letting the top team he wants to draft him know that he is doing it?
Still, you can practically score a 10 just by spelling your name right and getting the number of months in a year down pat...
One potential problem I can envision - If a highly-rated guy doesn't want to get drafted by certain teams who pick high, couldn't he sandbag the Wunderlic while letting the top team he wants to draft him know that he is doing it?
Krangodnzr
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The wonderlic is the easiest test I've ever taken (it was online, or at least a sample of it)
Basically, it involves easy everyday mathematics, spelling, common sense, etc.
Anyone who scores below a twenty, isn't very intelligent IMO, or just blew it off.
Basically, it involves easy everyday mathematics, spelling, common sense, etc.
Anyone who scores below a twenty, isn't very intelligent IMO, or just blew it off.
No one takes the Wunderlic Test seriously guys get 10 and are #1 picks high number 1 picks all the time. It is a media fan thing ONLY.
As for Taylor tanking things. How about that half hearted workout he gave? That might fit with your theory.
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Lex
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Suggs scored near 30 on the Wonderlic test Kerouac. He went to school in Az.
kerouac9
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Considering the price tag on dropping from a #3 overall to a #7 overall, I don't know why they would. It is really worth $1 mil a year or more to go from a team with 3 wins to wone with 4 or 5?
The Wunderlic isn't that great an indicator of anything. I'm not totally sure why teams would use it, except to get a gauge on how a player is without doing an interview.
Krangodnzr
Captain of Team Conner
That's not true, plenty of players take it seriously.
And I would have to wonder about someone who wouldn't, since it's part of the process. I guess millions of dollars don't matter to them, and following directions don't matter either.
kerouac9
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I'd guess that 85% of the players do care. Everyone probably not a Top 10 pick probably cares at least a little.
Simeon Rice didn't care. Shockey evidently didn't care. That might say something about the character of the player, but I don't think it says a ton about the intelligence of a player.
Krangodnzr
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And doesn't character count for something? So, we can assume that either Taylor isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, or he lacks character to a certain degree (which has come up before).
Hmmm....reason 1,000,001 NOT to draft the guy....
JeffGollin
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Because I'm dying to get Wunderlic info in order to post Wunderlics for various players on the BRS draft pages, I just took a quickie tour of "Draft Website Land" (including Sporting News War Room, ITL, GBN and NFL.com - and came up empty.
Where did you come up with that bit of information about Taylor's 10, azdad1978?
Where did you come up with that bit of information about Taylor's 10, azdad1978?
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kerouac9
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I'll say it again:
Sean Taylor = Terrell Suggs.
Do I still think that we should draft him at #3? Not really. I think that if we traded down to #5 and got him, it'd be a great pick. If we traded down to #7 and took him, it'd be a steal.
10 forced turnovers a season covers a lot of warts on my sheet. I think that he's still be best defensive player in the draft by far.
The test is meaningless. Simms scored a 10 and became a great QB won a SB and is the #1 announcer on CBS.
Tons of top 10 and top 20 picks got low scores on it and were drafted high and did well.
It is a bogus test. Scouts GMs and players don't give a flying @#$% about it.
It doesn't determine Football success or Life success. It is just something for the media and fans to go gaa gaa over.
Here is what they care about 8 ints a season. 12 sacks. 2 Pro Bowls in 4 years of playing. Making the playoffs. Stuff like that.
If you are drafting in the draft you are taking the best football player or athlete. If a guy has a 10 on his Wunderlic and a 60% completion average you go with him over a guy who scored high on Wunderlic and completed 40% of his passes. This applies for all 7 rounds.
The Wunderlic is meaningless. You might as well make players do a crossword puzzle and rate them on how they do.
Tons of top 10 and top 20 picks got low scores on it and were drafted high and did well.
It is a bogus test. Scouts GMs and players don't give a flying @#$% about it.
It doesn't determine Football success or Life success. It is just something for the media and fans to go gaa gaa over.
Here is what they care about 8 ints a season. 12 sacks. 2 Pro Bowls in 4 years of playing. Making the playoffs. Stuff like that.
If you are drafting in the draft you are taking the best football player or athlete. If a guy has a 10 on his Wunderlic and a 60% completion average you go with him over a guy who scored high on Wunderlic and completed 40% of his passes. This applies for all 7 rounds.
The Wunderlic is meaningless. You might as well make players do a crossword puzzle and rate them on how they do.
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LVCARDFREAK
In the league 20 years!
First off when I think of great QB's I dont think of Simms. Solid yes, great? Ummm.no
Second what in the hell does being the #1 announcer on CBS have anything to do with the wonderlic?
Hell McGuire is the #1 football announcer for ESPN. I wouldnt call him "smart"
Dude you are missing the point.
Smart as defined by the Wunderlic is bogus. There are different kinds of smarts and success. The Wunderlic is neither indicative of football smarts, business smarts, street smarts or anything else.
Some of the dumbest people I know I met in University. Some of the smartest people I know never went to University (one guy never finished high school).
Anyone who judges people off the Wunderlic is barking up the wrong tree.
How about Terry Bradshaw or Joe Montana these guys aren't Rhodes Scholars - Pat Haden was.
LVCARDFREAK
In the league 20 years!
I dont think you judge their scores as much as you might judge whether they take the test or not, whether they take it seriously or not, and whether they complete it.
I know standardize testing is bogus, but one can say that about any of the tests: Wonderlic, IOWA Basic Skills tests, The military tests for entrance (not sure the name of it) etc.
So how then do you gauge their intelligence? Talking to them of course helps, but it still wont give you the answers you need.
