Team has not recieved permission for Butler! Nor have they asked for permission!

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Is this great or what?? The Cards have never been the focus of this much chatter.. EVER!

This is just awesome.
 

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Ah Shucks, I wasn't all blown away by his resume anyway.

Where did all this misinformation begin? Blackflag!
 

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Yuck. Our current core of assistant D coaches does nothing for me.

And I wouldnt expect Graves to say anything less. Keeps all points of negotiations and public perception on the Cardinals terms.

1. They can now say its all Boldins fault for not staying or having to be traded. If they continue to offer him deals.
2. Puts other teams on notice they better pay up if you want a player we still covet.
3. It would be smart to try one more time to get him to sign a new deal.
 

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:mulli:

:bang:

The combine starts in a week and we've got zero idea who either of the coordinators are going to be. Yippeee!!!
 

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I don't believe Urban has "reported" anything about the coaching changes. All he has done is repeat what others have reported- some incorrectly.

My hunch is that the promotions come from within and new coaches are added to fill the bottom vacancies. On the other hand, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see The Engineer come up with something we don't expect. This should be the first off-season drama to be completed.

Urban is "reporting" on his conversation with Graves, I will be reading between the lines on anything that comes from that.
 

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:mulli:

:bang:

The combine starts in a week and we've got zero idea who either of the coordinators are going to be. Yippeee!!!

We may have no idea but I bet The Coach knows exactly who they are.
 

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I don't believe Urban has "reported" anything about the coaching changes. All he has done is repeat what others have reported- some incorrectly.

My hunch is that the promotions come from within and new coaches are added to fill the bottom vacancies. On the other hand, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see The Engineer come up with something we don't expect. This should be the first off-season drama to be completed.

Urban is "reporting" on his conversation with Graves, I will be reading between the lines on anything that comes from that.

You are right and that will probably ultimatly happening. All in house hirings and filling in the lower positions. But you would think if the guys who will be getting the promotions are already in house this process would or shouldnt take this long. It doesnt take this long to promote in house which makes me still believe there is something else going on here, and it doesnt have to be Butler either, just something else besides in house promotions.
 

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I used to make fun of my wife for watching soap operas. Now I know why she enjoys them so much. I have no idea what will happen this offseason with the Cardinals.

Will Anquan Boldin fall in love with the Front Office again?

Will Dansby cheat on the Cards with another team?

Will Simeon Rice be risen from the dead?

Who will be Whisenhunts new right hand man on Defense?

Will the Cardinals bring in some new sexy FA?



Juicy stuff I tell you.

:grabs:
 

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We may have no idea but I bet The Coach knows exactly who they are.

You're probably exactly right, but I bet free agents have no idea and perception is huge. All they see is a franchise that's struggled as long as they've been alive and after their first successful season in 50 years, they go through all of this mess. Maybe my mountain is just a mole hill but all of this uncertainly can't look good in the eyes of Suggs, Peppers or countless other free agents that we're all drooling over.
 

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Wasn't all that high on Butler.

Yet, another case of ESPN false adverising.

Where for art thou Romeo?

That is who I hope the Cardinals are looking at.
 

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You are right and that will probably ultimatly happening. All in house hirings and filling in the lower positions. But you would think if the guys who will be getting the promotions are already in house this process would or shouldnt take this long. It doesnt take this long to promote in house which makes me still believe there is something else going on here, and it doesnt have to be Butler either, just something else besides in house promotions.

Good point. Perhaps it is something as simple as needing to talk face to face with the men "not selected" prior to announcing it or maybe Coach Whisenhunt is lining up a pooch kick or fake field goal. He has surprised me before. I will say that no one in the organization is making any sounds. It's very, very quiet.
 

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Wasn't all that high on Butler.

Yet, another case of ESPN false adverising.

Where for art thou Romeo?

That is who I hope the Cardinals are looking at.

Wouldn't mind seeing Crennel. I have a feeling Whiz is going to promote from within as has been previously stated. I can understand that too. Do you really want to entrust the NFC champions D to a guy who doesn't know anyone on the team and hasn't been here at all?
 

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You're probably exactly right, but I bet free agents have no idea and perception is huge. All they see is a franchise that's struggled as long as they've been alive and after their first successful season in 50 years, they go through all of this mess. Maybe my mountain is just a mole hill but all of this uncertainly can't look good in the eyes of Suggs, Peppers or countless other free agents that we're all drooling over.[/QUOTE]

Yup! This is the 11th of February and Free Agency starts as of the 27th.
 

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If they can get some things squared away in the next 2 weeks I don't know that the perception suffers all that much. There's also the chance that making a certain move two weeks from now will sway a free agent more than making a different move now. Frustrating, but we'll just have to see how it plays out.
 

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You're probably exactly right, but I bet free agents have no idea and perception is huge. All they see is a franchise that's struggled as long as they've been alive and after their first successful season in 50 years, they go through all of this mess. Maybe my mountain is just a mole hill but all of this uncertainly can't look good in the eyes of Suggs, Peppers or countless other free agents that we're all drooling over.

Hey they all know who played in the last super bowl and saw a team with five pro bowlers. Show them the money and they will come.
 

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According to Sommers blog -

"The Cardinals now have a policy of not commenting on reports of them asking for permission to interview other coaches, or on other teams asking to interview their coaches. "

So we wont know for sure if any reports at all are true or not true. Its just a waiting game and I myself wont be wringing my hands on any reports from here on out considering the Cards wont comment on anything and we wont know if any report is true or not.
 
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