Terra Nova (FOX)

[AzStevenCal]

Didn't they say Wars... Greed... etc at the very begining?

I don't know about "the very beginning" but Taylor mentioned those two things when he gave them all their welcoming speech.

Steve

 

[Pariah]

Here's a question (and granted, maybe I missed it because I came in about 20 minutes late), but why is it important to the plot that this is a time-travel show? If they're in an alternate timeline, why not just make this another planet all together? If the passage of time and potential paradoxes aren't really an issue, it doesn't matter that they're in the past, does it?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Here's a question (and granted, maybe I missed it because I came in about 20 minutes late), but why is it important to the plot that this is a time-travel show? If they're in an alternate timeline, why not just make this another planet all together? If the passage of time and potential paradoxes aren't really an issue, it doesn't matter that they're in the past, does it?

I'm still about 15 minutes from finishing the episode but I think it might turn out that the time travel aspect is important. I think that (discovery) scene shortly after the kids get to the waterfall will turn out to be relevant at some point in this series. Anyway, there seemed to be a mystery worth telling.

Steve

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't know about "the very beginning" but Taylor mentioned those two things when he gave them all their welcoming speech.

Steve

Yeah but I mean specifically, to get to a situation where people have to use re-breathers in every day life is pretty severe so there had to be something that triggered that.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yeah but I mean specifically, to get to a situation where people have to use re-breathers in every day life is pretty severe so there had to be something that triggered that.

I understand your point but I suspect they just considered it unnecessary. The concept that mankind spoils his planet and makes it eventually unlivable is at the core of so many futuristic scenarios that it would only make sense to go into depth on it if it wasn't the result of the usual (pollution, greed, global warming, nuclear holocaust etc).

Steve

 

[Stout]

Well, that I understand. I have two DVR's in my living room (the Tivo holds 200 hours of HD) so I have plenty of room for TV shows. My problem is that I still have probably 80 hours of episodes of shows from last fall because I've been unmotivated to watch any of them. All my summer shows have already been watched and I'm sitting here waiting for more of them.

Steve

See, if something sits a few weeks in my queue like that, I delete it, because it is clearly not interesting enough to me. Then again, you may have more time constraints than I do.

 

[AzStevenCal]

See, if something sits a few weeks in my queue like that, I delete it, because it is clearly not interesting enough to me. Then again, you may have more time constraints than I do.

Actually, it's the opposite. By almost anyone's standards, I have no constraints on my time.

Steve

 

[Cheesebeef]

those dinos ain't nearly cool enough, the family's not nearly interesting enough and there be a lot of cliches in the first episode. i mean... really? the son is mad at the dad because the dad lost it when the cops were going to take his sister in the beginning? that's just incredibly poor motivation to have conflict.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The 2 parts I disliked the most, as someone else said they didn't really explain what destroyed the regular earth, maybe that will come in future episodes. And I hated that they didn't show the guy escaping from jail, one minute he's playing with a laser pointer, the next he's out and escaped, and how much more obvious could it have been the little girl was in the backpack?

yeah, talk about your lazy writing there... and the fact that they don't have better security getting into that portal. all it took was a couple solid elbows to a couple guy's faces and off goes the hubby into the past?

 

[Folster]

I thought the show was pretty good, but their firearms suck ass. They can travel back in time but they can't make a gun to put down a dinosaur. The injuries were pretty lame as well. The one kid gets his leg practically bit off by that dinosaur and he's seen limping around a few scenes later. The other kid gets disemboweled but seems to be fine as well.

 

[Russ Smith]

what did people think of last night? Was I the only one thinking I've seen this episode before in other shows, like the Tribbles episode on Star Trek only these were vicious animals?

And how could it take them that long to recognize the birds outside their place with the sharp beaks were probably a problem?

 

[Folster]

what did people think of last night? Was I the only one thinking I've seen this episode before in other shows, like the Tribbles episode on Star Trek only these were vicious animals?

And how could it take them that long to recognize the birds outside their place with the sharp beaks were probably a problem?

It was a worthless episode. Too much of a family drama. The lead father's (I forget his name) fit of jealousy cheapened his character and is ridiculous considering his wife stood by him while he was in prison, helped him break out of jail to join him in a new world. Lame!

At least someone actually died in this episode.

Those birds were lame as well and could have been fought off with a broom. I think I'm done with this show, despite my anticipation for its start.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Weak episode with terrible writing/poor acting. Not a good sign. I'll give it a couple more shows but don't have high hopes for it.

Sadly the only thing that actually made sense was the annoying teenage boy and his completely obvious budding romance with the new chick.

Oh and I would never let a loud bird disrupt my special time with the wife, twice nonetheless. Crank up a radio or something dude!

 

[MrYeahBut]

I'm compulsive about keeping junk of my DVR too. My wife and I record all this stuff and only watch parts of it. I always clear it so I have plenty of room for all the Cardinal games.

So far I've deleted all the Cards games too. lol. I can't bear to rewatch them either.

 

[Pariah]

I watched 10 minutes of last night's ep and then deleted it and the season pass.

This show is painful, IMO.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I watched 10 minutes of last night's ep and then deleted it and the season pass.

This show is painful, IMO.

I had such mediocre hopes for this series. I'm sorry to say they've already been smashed to pieces.

Steve

 

[conraddobler]

those dinos ain't nearly cool enough, the family's not nearly interesting enough and there be a lot of cliches in the first episode. i mean... really? the son is mad at the dad because the dad lost it when the cops were going to take his sister in the beginning? that's just incredibly poor motivation to have conflict.

I concur.

I'm not in the business so I don't know how this works and maybe it's just the difference in writers but from the pilot to the first episode they're jumping all over the place.

In the first episode the son has re-accepted the dad, the mom and dad got less interesting if that's possible and of course the little kid was in danger again.

Lost in space might have had crisper characters than this.

I had some hope for this but it's going to face plant if you ask me.

Free advice to the writers, explore the timeline issue to the hilt, you're going to have to go LOST on this to save this, the effects won't do it, it has to be the story and the only thing that's going to save you now, and it's probably too late is to go to the hilt on the entire premise about the real reason behind this being to control the future.

So ends the free advice.

 

[conraddobler]

what did people think of last night? Was I the only one thinking I've seen this episode before in other shows, like the Tribbles episode on Star Trek only these were vicious animals?

And how could it take them that long to recognize the birds outside their place with the sharp beaks were probably a problem?

Vastly dissapointed.

I will give it more time because I have a shortage of shows on that I follow and it's DVR'd and now I'm curious at watching this train wreck play out.

The initial episode implied that there was some kind of plot to control the future behind the entire thing.

They have to go there to save this, the effects are just not good enough to carry this and it's kind of like Gilligan's Island, Lost in Space and Star Trek all mashed together with Knots Landing.

It's bad IMO.

 

[Gaddabout]

I concur.
Free advice to the writers, explore the timeline issue to the hilt, you're going to have to go LOST on this to save this, the effects won't do it, it has to be the story and the only thing that's going to save you now, and it's probably too late is to go to the hilt on the entire premise about the real reason behind this being to control the future.

It's sadly too late for the writers to even take advice. Most of these FX shows are written and principle shot WAY in advance because there's so much post-production involved. I'm guessing they could only make a show like that with a 13-episode guarantee, so we'll see this into November and then it will just disappear like it never existed. Because not even sci-fi will touch this dog with fleas.

 

[Stout]

My DVR didn't get the show properly because of the baseball game. That's my way of knowing that I'm done with this show

 

[Cheesebeef]

It's sadly too late for the writers to even take advice. Most of these FX shows are written and principle shot WAY in advance because there's so much post-production involved. I'm guessing they could only make a show like that with a 13-episode guarantee, so we'll see this into November and then it will just disappear like it never existed. Because not even sci-fi will touch this dog with fleas.

this show somehow got a two-year commitment (unheard of in my business). it'll run it's 13 and be back next year.

 

[Mulli]

I could tell this would be horrible after watching 20 seconds o the commercial.

 

[Russ Smith]

this show somehow got a two-year commitment (unheard of in my business). it'll run it's 13 and be back next year.

Weird and I agree with Conrad right now the best hope is the timeline angle.

The commercial for next week implies that's the route they're going that we're going to examine the "real reason for Terranova."

THey gotta do something they sort of just threw us into this new world and are asking us to just accept it without any explanation for what the heck is going on and as I said before what destroyed the earth.

They said in the pilot there was no connection in the timelines so I assumed then that meant the whole idea of continuity wasn't going to come into play, you wouldn't have to worry about changes in the past changing the future.

But then last night one of the characters said something about they're doing this to make a better future for everyone and it seemed like they were talking down the line, not for the current people? It wasn't clear if they meant what we're doing now is going to fix the time we came from(which is counter to the pilot) or we won't make the same mistakes we did where we came from.

My gf likes it so I'll keep watching but they gotta figure out what kind of show they want to be and do it.

 

[conraddobler]

The Sleestaks on Land of the Lost are about on par with some of the special effects on here.

I usually committ to about 6 episodes before I dump a show, that's a lot I realize but basically we're three down and three more to go.

They better have something in the can that can turn this around.

 

[Louis]

But then last night one of the characters said something about they're doing this to make a better future for everyone and it seemed like they were talking down the line, not for the current people? It wasn't clear if they meant what we're doing now is going to fix the time we came from(which is counter to the pilot) or we won't make the same mistakes we did where we came from.

Haven't watched the last ep yet, but in the pilot they explained that the only reason they come through to the past is because it was on a different timeline so it wouldn't effect the future.