Terry McDonough interviews with 49ers. They hire John Lynch instead

[Mitch]

Man, I sure hope that doesn't happen. Not only is McDonough a valuable asset as a personnel director and in helping to negotiate contracts, he has his hands all over the Cardinals' off-season blueprint and with 19 UFAs ready to hit the market, McDonough would have the money and authority to cherry pick some of the Cardinals' best free agents and to go after some of the Cardinals' top UFA targets.

With Steve Keim and Terry McDonough in house, Keim has been able to focus more on free agency because McDonough has emerged as a key figure in evaluating the draft. Keim's handling of free agency has been his strength and McDonough's influence on recent draft picks such as OLB Markus Golden, RB David Johnson and DE Rodney Gunter has been noteworthy.

Would McDonough be inclined to bring one of the Cardinals' promising young defensive coaches (Larry Foote, Brentson Buckner) with him as his defensive coordinator? The 49ers run the 3-4, so it would be a natural fit for Larry Foote, in particular. Foote's extensive understanding of Dick Le Beau's and Todd Bowles' versions of the 34---as Foote was the play caller in the huddle in both systems---would make him an intriguing candidate.

This Saturday the 49ers will be meeting in Atlanta with McDonough and Minnesota Asst. GM George Paton for a second time. The 49ers' top choice for HC, Kyle Shanahan will be in the meetings and will likely have a strong say as to whom they hire as GM. An interesting dynamic will be in play here because, by all rights, Shanahan will want to be assured that he has a strong say in the addition and construction of the 49ers' personnel. Would McDonough be willing to give Shanahan some or much of the personnel control?

Some SF pundits are predicting that the 49ers might open up the GM search further (if neither McDonough or Paton emerges as the clear choice) once Shanahan is officially hired.

McDonough has earned his chance. But it would be tough to see him go to the 49ers.

 

[az jam]

Mitch, from everything I have read and heard Kyle Shanahan will be the power guy with the 49ers and pick the General Manager. Kyle will have total authority over the roster. That is why several of the other GM candidates withdrew. McDonough would be subservient to Kyle. Sure it's still a promotion but not an ideal situation for McDonough.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

McDonough would be an ideal replacement, as Cards fans, for Baalke.

 

[Harry]

If this happened it would be a huge setback.

 

[juza76]

If this happened it would be a huge setback.

Tell me why?

 

[juza76]

Do u think his brother could be missed too?

 

[Bodha]

With Steve Keim and Terry McDonough in house, Keim has been able to focus more on free agency because McDonough has emerged as a key figure in evaluating the draft. Keim's handling of free agency has been his strength and McDonough's influence on recent draft picks such as OLB Markus Golden, RB David Johnson and DE Rodney Gunter has been noteworthy.

I for one would welcome a change in draft approach if that means losing Terry. I havent been happy with the drafts as of late, and I think some new blood in the draft chair would be excellent.

*and David Johnson was luck. We should all be sitting here right now lamenting our bust RB Ameer Abdullah, but fate threw us a bone and gave us David. It was a gift, not a shrewd draft pick.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Do u think his brother could be missed too?

Yes he 100% would be. Suns are absolutely going in the right direction.

 

[Buckybird]

It might not be that bad to get some new blood in house if Keim is more focused on FA instead of the draft. As Bodha said I've been less than impressed with our drafting process in the last 3 years.

If it happens I guess we shall see. But in all reality, this kind of thing happens

 

[Bodha]

Yes he 100% would be. Suns are absolutely going in the right direction.

That direction being down...to the #1 overall pick

 

[Ronin]

Matt Maiocco‏ @MaioccoCSN
Presumptive #49ers HC Kyle Shanahan has minimal or no history w/ GM finalists Terry McDonough and George Paton entering Saturday’s meetings.

 

[Ronin]

Matt Maiocco‏ @MaioccoCSN
But Kyle Shanahan has people close to him who have vouched for both GM candidates - Terry McDonough and George Paton - as good fits for job.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

That direction being down...to the #1 overall pick

That direction would be a potential superstar that you snagged at #13. Turning an aging PG on the last year of his contract and about to get a massive payday into two unprotected #1 picks (which look like lottery picks now). Turning a malcontent into a lottery pick. Drafting two young bigs that both show promise.

The IT trade was bad, but in fairness he was signed to that contract as an asset to get a draft pick and that is what he did. Brandon Knight is what he is. He made the right call that the Suns are never seeing that Lakers pick be anything more than a mid round selection and he was right, just traded for the wrong player.

If you want to build a winner in the NBA, competing for the 8th seed isn't going to do it. No Superstar is signing with the Sarver led Suns. Those days are done. So your only hope is to hit on a big trade or draft well. He has drafted well.

 

[Bodha]

That direction would be a potential superstar that you snagged at #13. Turning an aging PG on the last year of his contract and about to get a massive payday into two unprotected #1 picks (which look like lottery picks now). Turning a malcontent into a lottery pick. Drafting two young bigs that both show promise.

The IT trade was bad, but in fairness he was signed to that contract as an asset to get a draft pick and that is what he did. Brandon Knight is what he is. He made the right call that the Suns are never seeing that Lakers pick be anything more than a mid round selection and he was right, just traded for the wrong player.

If you want to build a winner in the NBA, competing for the 8th seed isn't going to do it. No Superstar is signing with the Sarver led Suns. Those days are done. So your only hope is to hit on a big trade or draft well. He has drafted well.

That whole Bledsoe/Knight/Dragic/Thomas thing was a real win. He shouldve been fired on the spot for that train crash. Thomas, by the way, is arguably the best PG in the NBA right now, if you didnt know.


Mcdonough has no plan, no direction, and no sense. He trades the wrong guys, pays the wrong guys, drafts the wrong guys, signs the wrong guys. Its also the moves he doesnt make (which he should have made) which define him as an awful GM.


And hes a good GM, why? Because he got lucky with Booker? So tell me, how long does that save his job? How long can he keep going back to the "I DRAFTED BOOKER!" well to justify his employment?

Guy is a dumpster fire GM as demonstrated by our dumpster fire team.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Which would you want:

1) Dragic plays for a half a season and then walks with zero compensation
2) Dragic gets paid a max contract and we compete for an 8 seed for two years before he falls apart
3) Two unprotected draft picks from a team that is now looking at a long stint in the lottery.

Bringing up the Dragic trade like a bad thing is comical.

The IT trade you can say is his one mistake, but without that draft pick, we don't have Chriss.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I won't bring up any further Suns talk on this Cardinals thread beyond saying in three years we are going to see McDonough as the Denny Green of the Suns. Someone who basically built the foundation for a great team and likely another GM / Coach is going to profit off it.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Not worried.

Not about losing Terry McDonough, or losing 16 out of the 19 available free agents.

If Terry McDonough wants to be the GM of the Niners, and re-sign Marcus Cooper, or Earl Watford......at least we will know where to attack their team.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I won't bring up any further Suns talk on this Cardinals thread beyond saying in three years we are going to see McDonough as the Denny Green of the Suns. Someone who basically built the foundation for a great team and likely another GM / Coach is going to profit off it.

what are you talking about unprotected lottery picks from Miami? That's not even close to being the case. The first year's pick we could get in 2018 and it's top 7 protected. And the next pick from them is 2021. To call a pick 4 years into the future "a lottery" pick seems like a pretty big assumption. Especially since you assume they'd never get that Lakers pick until it was a mid-round selection... even though they are still one of the biggest train-wrecks in the league.

and there's no defending the Thomas move. We got the 30th pick in the draft... for a guy who's going to be a two-time All-Star and like All-NBA player this year.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

what are you talking about unprotected lottery picks from Miami? That's not even close to being the case. The first year's pick we could get in 2018 and it's top 7 protected. And the next pick from them is 2021. To call a pick 4 years into the future "a lottery" pick seems like a pretty big assumption. Especially since you assume they'd never get that Lakers pick until it was a mid-round selection... even though they are still one of the biggest train-wrecks in the league.

and there's no defending the Thomas move. We got the 30th pick in the draft... for a guy who's going to be a two-time All-Star and like All-NBA player this year.

Right, he was this great player, which is why we got to sign him to a bargain basement contract.

Oh wait prior to this season, Isiah Thomas was a 5'9 guy who shot below 44% from the field and below 36% from 3. He was basically poor man's Bledsoe.

Yes he has absolutely has blown up this year but no one saw that. No one. If they had he wouldn't have been had for a song the same year we traded him. He has put up career highs across the board.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

McDonough is the ultimate kiss-ass, yes man. York will love him.

 

[Mitch]

McDonough is the ultimate kiss-ass, yes man. York will love him.

Where did you hear that? I've always thought of TMcD as an alpha dog, much like his dad.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I for one would welcome a change in draft approach if that means losing Terry. I havent been happy with the drafts as of late, and I think some new blood in the draft chair would be excellent.

*and David Johnson was luck. We should all be sitting here right now lamenting our bust RB Ameer Abdullah, but fate threw us a bone and gave us David. It was a gift, not a shrewd draft pick.

To an extent but you forget one thing, we still had to have the foresight to draft David Johnson which others did not

 

[juza76]

David johnson was a lucky pick and was a position of need and good value pick.in round 3
U dont have to be a football manager or being a scout for 1 year to make that selection
The gm and his scouts were eager to draft abdullah

 

[GuernseyCard]

McDonough...

Wasn't he the guy many were calling a bad hire because he came out of Jacksonville?

 

[Harry]

Tell me why?

McDonough is widely regarded as an excellent evaluator of talent. He has a special relationship with Keim. You need guys you can trust around you. Here's a read that may help

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-englan...-cards-for-new-england-native-terry-mcdonough