Terry McDonough interviews with 49ers. They hire John Lynch instead

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I don't know if McDonough is a nice guy, terrible guy or something in the middle.

But what I find very hard to beleive is that he is a terrible guy and the Cardinals need someone to hire him away to get rid of him.

If they really want to get rid of him, they can just get rid of him.
 

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I don't know if McDonough is a nice guy, terrible guy or something in the middle.

But what I find very hard to beleive is that he is a terrible guy and the Cardinals need someone to hire him away to get rid of him.

If they really want to get rid of him, they can just get rid of him.

Probably correct but McDonough and Keim are friends so firing him would be difficult. Harry posted a link to an article about McDonough and it covered his and Keim's friendship.

Bottom line for me is that the Cards have done very well in the draft and FA under Keim's reign and it included McDonough and Litch (sp) who is now the GM in Tampa? so I'm not at all concerned about an article that bashes him.

Kind of ironic that San Fran market is talking about disharmony in any other franchise. :)
 
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Best news is we won't hear Lynch on commentary anymore.

Chris--- I may be in the minority, but i really liked him. He sure had the Cardinals' tendencies (on both sides of the ball) and personnel issues down to a tee, better and more accurate than the vast majority of color analysts. It was like he was one of us commenting on the game, that's how prepared and familiar he was.

I wonder which of the Cardinals' UFAs he will go after. Being a safety himself, I imagine that Tony Jefferson would be high on his list. He has Eric Reid at FS. Adding a SS like Jefferson would be big for them.
 

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The hogwash is the Niners Nation reporter speculating that the Cardinals don't like McDonough and want to get rid of him. Steve Keim has even said about the "fiery" McDonough that he likes that McDonough is so passionate and opinionated and that he makes for great discussions and arguments about which players are the best fits.

Surely McDonough isn't the only draft personnel director to uncover small school gems---but, there is no denying that McDonough is a key figure and voice in the Cardinals' draft selections.

If you go back and watch All or Nothing, Terry McDonough's involvement in the draft was profound. First it was he who was on the phone with Ameer Abdullah when the Lions snatched him one pick in front to the Cardinals.

Then when BA and SK were discussing RB options in the 3rd round, it was McDonough who relayed the scouting report on David Johnson and with it, his supreme confidence in making the pick.

As for Rodney Gunter, Gunter was first discovered by Cardinals' area scout Zac Canty----who gave Gunter a draftable grade.

McDonough---who reviews tape on every player the Cardinals give a draftable grade to---raved about what he saw on Gunter's tapes, to the point of asking the defensive line coach, Brentson Bruckner to go give Gunter a workout.

It was McDonough (buoyed by Canty's and Bruckner's reviews) who urged the Cardinals to trade up for Gunter in the 4th round. They received a tip that the 49ers (ironically) were going to take Gunter at pick #117, thus the Cardinals made the trade with Cleveland to acquire the #116 pick.

If the Cardinals didn't like Terry McDonough they would have never promoted him to VP of Player Personnel and given him such a vital role in the draft.
I guess we're just going to have disagree. You can take a couple snippets from All or Nothing and romanticize McDomough's influence in the FO. I'll go with reports from people that have actually worked with him on a professional level. Let's face it, the ninernation article didn't come out of thin air and what would the author have to gain by it if it did? Maybe the author talked to Trent Baalke, who I know is not a fan of McDonough. Or a guy with the Giants or a guy with the Jags or other members of the Cards . That makes more sense to me then seeing him on the phone with Abdullah during an edited version of All or Nothin and coming to a conclusion.

And, btw, these same people think Keim is great so they don't just go around saying un-flattering things about people. Keim may like McDonough, obviously does, but that doesn't mean the rest of the FO holds him in the same regard.
 
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I guess we're just going to have disagree. You can take a couple snippets from All or Nothing and romanticize McDomough's influence in the FO. I'll go with reports from people that have actually worked with him on a professional level. Let's face it, the ninernation article didn't come out of thin air and what would the author have to gain by it if it did? Maybe the author talked to Trent Baalke, who I know is not a fan of McDonough. Or a guy with the Giants or a guy with the Jags or other members of the Cards . That makes more sense to me then seeing him on the phone with Abdullah during an edited version of All or Nothin and coming to a conclusion.

And, btw, these same people think Keim is great so they don't just go around saying un-flattering things about people. Keim may like McDonough, obviously does, but that doesn't mean the rest of the FO holds him in the same regard.

How often do we get an inside glimpse at the Cardinals draft room? I wasn't romanticizing what i saw -- it was plain and clear that BA & SK put a lot of faith and trust in TMcD. Keim has said so repeatedly and that he appreciates McDonough for being the voice of dissension at times.

I do not doubt your sources in the Jags' organization or what they said---but I wonder if some football people resent TMcD because they feel he got his foot in the door in the NFL because of his dad, long-time NBC NFL reporter and Boston Globe columnist, Will McDonough. It could be too that it was a result of egos clashing amongst alpha types.

Anyway, here's what was reported on the Cards' Wire:


After the San Francisco 49ers hired John Lynch to be their general manager, it meant Arizona Cardinals vice president of player personnel Terry McDonough returned to the team. By all accounts, this is a good thing. However, a report came up leading up to last weekend when McDonough interviewed for the GM job for the second time, and it suggests the Cardinals perhaps wanted him gone.

Reporter Jennifer Lee Chan, writing for SB Nation’s Niners Nation, wrote how McDonough isn’t well liked within the organization.

There has only been positive press about both 49ers general manager candidates McDonough and George Paton who is currently assistant general manger of the Minnesota Vikings. While my personal research has turned up only positive opinions of Paton, what I am hearing from multiple sources is that McDonough is not well liked in Arizona. In fact, there were no positive reports about McDonough at all.

McDonough has been called “hard to deal with” and “not a good guy.” So much so that Arizona started a positive campaign for him over the last season just to get him out of the building.

This is completely out of left field for people in the Cardinals’ market. There has been nothing of the sort mentioned or even whispered locally. Everything suggests the Cardinals are very happy with McDonough.

Larry Fitzgerald went out of his way to tweet his support for him.

Local reporter and radio host John Gambadoro says the report is absurd. He tweeted that the Cardinals' brass are laughing about this and that the Niners writers must be trying to conjure up some dirt to make the out-of-left-field hiring of John Lynch seem more attractive.



Perhaps Chan’s sources were not within the Cardinals organization, but within the 49ers, who were slinging a little mud to make the hiring of John Lynch look better. Perhaps there is much more to the story than we know here in Arizona.

Cardinals GM Steve Keim has had nothing but praise publicly for McDonough’s work. Fitzgerald certainly makes it seem like he is well-liked. A local reporter has information suggesting the opposite.

It would appear the report is as off-base as it feels.
 

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Wait so they chose Lynch over George Patton?

I guess it's not that patton?

:)

I love the stuff going around locally which basically says sure has no experience but he's always succeeded at everything he's ever done. that's literally the defense in the media right now for hiring Lynch.
 

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I thought Lynch was actually pretty good. He comes off as a bit arrogant, but most of the color guys do to me. But, I think he gave astute observations and knows the game very well. I would not be surprised if he built a pretty good team up there in the Bay. Hiring a guy from the Broncos FO was a wise move as well. They've done pretty good in Mile High Town lately.
 

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I thought Lynch was actually pretty good. He comes off as a bit arrogant, but most of the color guys do to me. But, I think he gave astute observations and knows the game very well. I would not be surprised if he built a pretty good team up there in the Bay. Hiring a guy from the Broncos FO was a wise move as well. They've done pretty good in Mile High Town lately.

We all have our opinions. I thought Lynch just cited obvious things and then would go off on stuff which had nothing really to do with the game but just talk about himself. In my opinion, Chris Spielman was the best guy to ever cover a Cardinal game of late and provided for me far more worth than any observation Lynch had. I also liked Brian Billick. Yes, I know the guy invents some interesting names for players but he has a ton of football knowledge and I learned a lot watching him call a game... and it did not matter about players, I already knew their names lol
 

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The interesting hire if true is Adam Peters from Denver as VP of Personnel. He is from Cupertino where I am from(went to a different HS and after me) and played at UCLA.

he went on to Denver and stayed there 8 years, was apparently involved in their drafts and Elway in particular is a big fan of his. Peters came over when they hired the ex Patriot Josh McDaniels as head coach. McDaniels of course was caught cheating in Denver, the Broncos were embarrassed and infuriated and fired him after 2 years, but retained Peters who wasn't apparently involved in the cheating.

So it would appear the Broncos are a big influence on the new 49ers, Shanahan of course the son of Mike, worked for Kubiak in Houston(Shanahan pupil) and then worked for his dad in Washington.

Interesting not a ton of experience with Shanahan(never a head coach) or Lynch, but if you're going to try and emulate a franchise, Denver is a pretty good one to copy.
 

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wtf? niners gonna niner

great hire
even elwy didnt have experience as a manager but linch has the highest football knowledge plus he is very intelligent dude and can do very well if supported by ownership
Only one who has it right
:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

This is great as the day they hired the great Chip Kelly lol

The Matt Millen comparisons had me rolling. The York family is so insanely incompetent.

And for that, we are greatful

this is an organization that from a NFC champtionship and another trip to the NFC Champ game:

1. Fired the coach that got them there

2. After flirting with all sorts of names, they come out of left field and hire the defensive line coach - Jim Tomsula

3. Jim T flames out, and the team desperately needs a steady hand to right the ship, so...

4. After interviewing all sorts of names -- they come out of left field and hire Chip Kelley. The same Chip Kelley who after a good start, flamed out with the Eagles amid all sorts of discontent from the players

5. One year later, Chip Kelley is fired, along with GM Trent Balke.

6. At this point, if i own the 49ers -- im thinking i need a plan, i execute it, and demonstrate i know what i am doing. No more left field moves.

7. Needing both a GM and a headcoach -- the first hire is.............. the head coach. A solid choice in Kyle Shanahan. A little weird though that a young first time HC looks like he has veto power over the GM choice (afterall, this isnt Mike Shanahan or someone of his experience)

8. Now, after narrowing down the GM choices to a couple well regarded candidates........ out of left field comes John Lynch, who has never been a GM before -- and was seemingly picked by Kyle Shanahan.

who knows -- its crazy enough to work.
I bet the rest are wishing Lynch was the GM instead of Keim. He had a vision and executed.
 

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Thread will be bumped again when they thrash us Thursday...smh
 
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