The 2008-09 Los Angeles Lakers Thread

[KloD]

He's 20 freaking years old. His career stats include him getting less than scrub minutes as a barely turned 18 year old (his birthday is one day before mine).

The relevant stats are the ones he posted last year, when he got starters minutes for many of his games played.

Look at Kobe's stats in his first couple of seasons...they are far below his career averages. He also didn't get consistent minutes his first couple of seasons.

Didn't he have 57 starts the year prior? All I said was abomb was wrong, or at least should have quantified his claim to be those 25 games.

Ain't nothing wrong with Drew. I came around on him this year...the only thing I thought that was missing was some fire...I thought he was soft mentally. He is not...he's going to be really good. As a Lakerfan, I'm biased of course. If I was a fan of another team with a guy like him...I'd be worried.

Like I've said before, I like the kid. But, being that the Lakers are a division rival, I wouldn't mind them giving him the max only to find his injury limits his play. Nothing wrong w/ that.

 

[D-Dogg]

Didn't he have 57 starts the year prior? All I said was abomb was wrong, or at least should have quantified his claim to be those 25 games.

Yes, he did. Though he only got 20 mpg last year, despite the starts.

 

[KloD]

Yes, he did. Though he only got 20 mpg last year, despite the starts.

Were those 20 mpg for just his starts, or was his average brought down by the games he didn't?

It's obvious he showed a lot of improvement at the beginning of the season, but for the Lakers sake they should wait and see him do it for a season before rewarding him a max contract. I think you'd agree with that.

 

[D-Dogg]

Were those 20 mpg for just his starts, or was his average brought down by the games he didn't?

It's obvious he showed a lot of improvement at the beginning of the season, but for the Lakers sake they should wait and see him do it for a season before rewarding him a max contract. I think you'd agree with that.

Oh, I wouldn't rework his deal now, if it were me. They have him for 2 years...if he shows that last year wasn't a fluke, and he's healthy, they can max him out then. That's the way I'd play it.

 

[SECTION 11]

All Laker fans are big poopy heads.

Ooooohhh, Smack!!!



Sorry. Carry on.

 

[Jersey Girl]

All Laker fans are big poopy heads.

Ooooohhh, Smack!!!



Sorry. Carry on.

I love Section 11 and that's no smack!

I actually just came in here to say that I don't care for Kobe.

 

[Jersey Girl]

I know I don't appropriately represent the avg Suns fan on here, so I know you have a legitimate beef...but man posts like this sting, when I've been a fairly good fan & even rooted for the Lakers in the playoffs.

Ow.

Just for that, you get this:

Nice post, Linda, but you get a for admitting that you rooted for the Lakers in the playoffs.

 

[Linderbee]

Nice post, Linda, but you get a for admitting that you rooted for the Lakers in the playoffs.

sorry...but NO WAY could I root for an east coast team...

please don't hate me

 

[Jersey Girl]

sorry...but NO WAY could I root for an east coast team...

please don't hate me

No hate, just rocks.

 

[Assface]

sorry...but NO WAY could I root for an east coast team...

please don't hate me

Hey, what's wrong with the east coast? Is it because we're better at bowling?

 

[D-Dogg]

So, after taxes, fed and state, and SS/Medicare, Sasha's new deal pays him $2.5 million a year.

The tax free offer he turned down in Europe would have payed him what equals in US dollars $6.2 million.

Respect!

 

[Linderbee]

Hey, what's wrong with the east coast? Is it because we're better at bowling?

Not quite how I remember it going down...

Nothing wrong with east coast. Was born on the east coast, still love Pennsylvania. It's just I root for the "side" I'm in. I live on the west coast, so I have to root for the west coast.

I'd have been happy to remind you of how bowling's done by westerners, but NONE of you answered my pm

 

[D-Dogg]

In other news, Kobe responsible for the mortgage crisis, Katrina and global warming...

How do these people have jobs?

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/columnists/jennifer_floyd_engel/story/847650.html



Ooooookaaaay. Nevermind the fact that Kobe dropped out due to a "minor personal issue in Colorado" that didn't allow him to participate.

While that by itself is dumb journalism, even more dumb journalism was the original version of the bolded copy that was changed after she received a crapstorm of emails from Laker fans:



Man, that guy can not win regardless. Say what you will, but the dude is simply the most demonized athlete I've ever seen. Including Barry Bonds.

Not to mention that he never HAD a shot at Argentina, so how could he want another?

If you care to read them, some Lakers forum people have posted their back and forth emails with her on this. Some of them are fantastic.

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=72355&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25



Yeah, yeah...Kobe lover, blah blah...Lakers and AZ..blah blah...but seriously, incompetence is on the rise. And when someone takes the time to incompetently defend their incompetence, well...that's really friggin funny.

Thought these should be referenced here...the actual quotes in my posts are on the original thread...what is above doesn't even come CLOSE to giving this justice.

 

[Gee!]

no one cares...

 

[abomb]

Thought these should be referenced here...the actual quotes in my posts are on the original thread...what is above doesn't even come CLOSE to giving this justice.

Very interesting stuff.

 

[Mulli]

no one cares...

Have to agree. Not interested enough to click the links.

 

[D-Dogg]

Have to agree. Not interested enough to click the links.

No, you two don't care. The Laker fans here and probably some other people do.

And mulli, you don't even like beach volleyball so

 

[Mulli]

No, you two don't care. The Laker fans here and probably some other people do.

And mulli, you don't even like beach volleyball so

I also don't like eastern euro's and middle easterners and whoever else who wrestle freestyle in hair shirts.

So there!

 

[D-Dogg]

In other news, Kobe responsible for the mortgage crisis, Katrina and global warming...

How do these people have jobs?

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/columnists/jennifer_floyd_engel/story/847650.html

Their next step path on the path is beating Argentina in a semifinal Friday. It is fraught with baggage. The Argentineans eliminated the Americans in 2004.

“Of course, we think about it,” Anthony said. “2004 was miserable for us. There is no reason to lie about it. We were miserable.”

Nor was this just a one-time deal.

As Team USA assistant coach Mike D’Antoni noted: “It’s been a tough two, four or five years, and we’ve had to live with that.”

Nobody moreso than Kobe. He took a big hunk of the blame for the 2004 failure, mainly because he chose not to play. It was viewed as the ultimate selfish act.

This is why he wanted another shot at Argentina.

“We want to play the best. We want to play the defending champions,” Kobe said. “It’s all about challenges. Obviously, we welcome all comers, (but) Argentina is the defending champ, and we want to be able to play the guys who won it.”

Ooooookaaaay. Nevermind the fact that Kobe dropped out due to a "minor personal issue in Colorado" that didn't allow him to participate.

While that by itself is dumb journalism, even more dumb journalism was the original version of the bolded copy that was changed after she received a crapstorm of emails from Laker fans:

Nobody more so than Kobe. He took a big hunk of the blame for the 2004 failure, mainly because he was one of the main culprits in trying to win games by himself. We expected him to be better.

This is why he wanted another shot at Argentina.

Man, that guy can not win regardless. Say what you will, but the dude is simply the most demonized athlete I've ever seen. Including Barry Bonds.

Not to mention that he never HAD a shot at Argentina, so how could he want another?


If you care to read them, some Lakers forum people have posted their back and forth emails with her on this. Some of them are fantastic.

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=72355&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25

Her response to the guy's first email:

Thanks for reading and taking the time to email.

I was trying to say he was to blame for not going. I obviously screwed up. I apologize. But if I am correct, his legal troubles cleared up in the spring, right? It was a knee or so he said that prevented him from going. Either way, most people not wearing Kobe glasses blamed him for not being there. He is the best American player.

As for my agenda, the rest of the article is about how much his image has changed and deservedly so. You are right. I am so biased against him, writing that he is one of the stars of the Olympics.

And kudos to you. Yours is by far one of the dumbest emails I have ever received for obviously not reading the column. [Donald comment: this made me actually laugh out loud. Really, she had the gall to say that after her blatant screw up, and subsequent ignorance of a "correction" to restate her "original" point that would have been also incorrect...]

All the best,

jen

FWST

[donald]The guy goes on to say:[/donald]


This was my response to her email:

I am dumb for not reading your article? Then what are you for only 'fixing' your article after people complained that you didn't get your facts straight.

Your adgenda was to show that Kobe was viewed as being selfish before but isn't being viewed that way now. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out now does it? Thats fine. My point is, get your facts straight.

Funny how you bring up his knee and Colorado now but convieniently left that out of your article. The rape trial was dismissed in September 2004. Kobe was in and out of court that summer so how exactly is it that it had cleared up by the Olympics? If you are too lazy or incompenent to look it up - Google is your friend. [donald edit: LOL..google is your friend]

I can only imagine what your third edit would say. Your opinions are your opinions but at least get your facts straight. Kobe glasses or not, your article is and was full of inaccurate information. LMAO. Wonder what you did to get this job. As a matter of fact, I wonder what your editor did to get his job.

Yeah, yeah...Kobe lover, blah blah...Lakers and AZ..blah blah...but seriously, incompetence is on the rise. And when someone takes the time to incompetently defend their incompetence, well...that's really friggin funny.


Now it is easier to read...

 

[D-Dogg]

I also don't like eastern euro's and middle easterners and whoever else who wrestle freestyle in hair shirts.

So there!

You better not look in a mirror then. Hair shirt.

 

[Mulli]

As Team USA assistant coach Mike D’Antoni noted: “It’s been a tough two, four or five years, and we’ve had to live with that.”

Man, Pringles is such a whiner.

 

[Mulli]

You better not look in a mirror then. Hair shirt.

Kobe's issue in Colorado wasn't minor to his wife and child!!

 

[D-Dogg]

Kobe's issue in Colorado wasn't minor to his wife and child!!

That's why it was in quotes...to imply that it was a pretty freaking important thing and he didn't "choose" not to play. Sarcasm quotes. :mullit:

 

[Mulli]

That's why it was in quotes...to imply that it was a pretty freaking important thing and he didn't "choose" not to play. Sarcasm quotes. :mullit:

I know only kidding. Hah!

 

[D-Dogg]

I know only kidding. Hah!

Stop being such a Jennifer Floyd.