The 2022 NBA Play-In Tournament + Playoffs Thread

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The Jazz are due for a change. I'd keep Gobert and trade Mitchell as others have mentioned. Rudy should have plenty of years left in the tank.

The series with the Mavericks was there for the taking. There is something wrong with the chemistry of the Jazz.
I'd probably trade everyone on the roster that has value. From a distance they appear to be in desperate need of a full rebuild.
 

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Crap… we’re probably gonna have to win games in the 2nd round without Book if we take care of this round in 5 or 6.
 

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I'd probably trade everyone on the roster that has value. From a distance they appear to be in desperate need of a full rebuild.

Jazz have so many large salaries they might be better off trading the player who has the most value.
 

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I'm not a fan of Doncic and his theatrics.
 

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Luka is like I didn't foul Mitchell.
 

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One of those things I'd never thought I'd say, GO UTAH!!!
 

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Wow… Utah PULLED IT OFF! Great. Great. Great for us, extending this series hopefully long enough to get Book back by Game 1 or 2 of the next series once we take care of the Pelicans.
 

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I was feeling for Gobert when he was missing those free throws.
 

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Crap… we’re probably gonna have to win games in the 2nd round without Book if we take care of this round in 5 or 6.

He was shooting at practice today, they wouldn't let him jump if they thought he was still weeks away. I think he returns in either game 6 (if it happens) or game 1 round 2.
 

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I'd probably trade everyone on the roster that has value. From a distance they appear to be in desperate need of a full rebuild.

I think they can retool around Gobert after trading Mitchell. Even removing him to plug Clarkson in at SG and see what they can do.

Mitchell to OKC for picks, maybe? Get the best scoring guard they can and if they're not a playoff contender by the deadline dump everyone.
 

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I really hate this Nets court, gives off "corpse" vibes.
 

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I think they can retool around Gobert after trading Mitchell. Even removing him to plug Clarkson in at SG and see what they can do.

Mitchell to OKC for picks, maybe? Get the best scoring guard they can and if they're not a playoff contender by the deadline dump everyone.
Given that Donovan is 25 and Rudy is 29, why would you move Gobert over Mitchell? Is Donovan the reason their chemistry seems off? I have despised Utah since the early days of Stockton/Malone so I rarely watch them (or follow them) - so I have no idea what their issues are but this is basically the same team that Mitchell led to the best record in the NBA just a year ago.
 

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Given that Donovan is 25 and Rudy is 29, why would you move Gobert over Mitchell? Is Donovan the reason their chemistry seems off? I have despised Utah since the early days of Stockton/Malone so I rarely watch them (or follow them) - so I have no idea what their issues are but this is basically the same team that Mitchell led to the best record in the NBA just a year ago.

Gobert's game will likely be effective for another 4-5 years. He's not exactly mobile now but he locks down the paint like no other and doesn't require offensive touches. He's a more manageable personality than Mitchell.

Those 2 hate each other. I believe Mitchell averages 1 pass to Gobert a game, not assist but actual pass. He won't feed him despite being their primary ballhander. That's a legit stat someone else posted towards the end of the season and not hyperbole. They need separated.

Mitchell has more value in a trade and I can't see him sticking past his current contract in Utah, if he makes it that long. Trading Gobert to appease him might leave them without both if he bolts, which I think is likely. I can't see them improving without Gobert, Mitchell's bad perimeter defense would only be exposed more. So if they moved Gobert and suck more, Mitchell will bail out.

I think replacing a 20+ ppg scorer will be easier than replacing a perennial 1st team All Defensive Center. Mitchell is a ball dominant chucker at this point because he refuses to use his all of his teammates to their fullest, which will hold them back and while replacing Gobert might change that, I doubt it. I think he's set into who he is in Utah and unless he's forced to adjust elsewhere, he won't.
 

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Given that Donovan is 25 and Rudy is 29, why would you move Gobert over Mitchell? Is Donovan the reason their chemistry seems off? I have despised Utah since the early days of Stockton/Malone so I rarely watch them (or follow them) - so I have no idea what their issues are but this is basically the same team that Mitchell led to the best record in the NBA just a year ago.

Because Mitchell has given strong indications that he does not plan on staying in Utah at the end of this contract.

I also think that Gobert generally has a bigger impact anyway, and could do more if he played with someone who threw him the ball more than twice per game.

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I saw Mitchell throw Gobert the ball today including the game winning dunk.
 

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Gobert's game will likely be effective for another 4-5 years. He's not exactly mobile now but he locks down the paint like no other and doesn't require offensive touches. He's a more manageable personality than Mitchell.

Those 2 hate each other. I believe Mitchell averages 1 pass to Gobert a game, not assist but actual pass. He won't feed him despite being their primary ballhander. That's a legit stat someone else posted towards the end of the season and not hyperbole. They need separated.

Mitchell has more value in a trade and I can't see him sticking past his current contract in Utah, if he makes it that long. Trading Gobert to appease him might leave them without both if he bolts, which I think is likely. I can't see them improving without Gobert, Mitchell's bad perimeter defense would only be exposed more. So if they moved Gobert and suck more, Mitchell will bail out.

I think replacing a 20+ ppg scorer will be easier than replacing a perennial 1st team All Defensive Center. Mitchell is a ball dominant chucker at this point because he refuses to use his all of his teammates to their fullest, which will hold them back and while replacing Gobert might change that, I doubt it. I think he's set into who he is in Utah and unless he's forced to adjust elsewhere, he won't.

This.

Mitchell hasn’t grown as a player at all. He’s the perfect example of empty points. He’s not a leader his immaturity has killed them, he’s a horrible defender and passer.

Also Quinn Snyder has let the issues with Mitchell and Gobert fester for years. He never makes adjustment. I think he has to go also
 

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Man, KD has just been BLEGH in this series. I’ve never seen him make such little impact in three straight playoff games.
 

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Brooklyn looks like hot garbage, just throwing the ball away over and over.

I find it very satisfying that the league's 2 completely manufactured super teams have fallen completely on their faces this season.

Although I do feel a bit bad for Nash, I suspect his job isn't going to survive this debacle.
 
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