The 2023-24 league year

[TheCardFan]

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[TheCardFan]

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[TheCardFan]

Brock Purdy is absolutely crushing the graphs!

 

[TheCardFan]

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[TheCardFan]

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[TheCardFan]

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[TheCardFan]

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[kerouac9]

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Wouldn't this graph have been more interesting if the vertical axis was average yards allowed on third down? What does EPA add to this equation?

EPA is like taking the integral of an integral; it flattens everything. There's a 1/2-point difference from the top of the graph to the bottom.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[reebokalone2001]

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Murray doesn't look good on the chart. Even worse than Dobbs.

 

[reebokalone2001]

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A big Wow for k'von Wallace's play in coverage

 

[reebokalone2001]

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Does that mean Woods was way better in pass coverage than White? Big oof for Hicks.

 

[SECTION 11]

I’d like to see a chart of nothing but centers. Centers blocking. Centers holding. Centers making sandwiches.

 

[kerouac9]

I’d like to see a chart of nothing but centers. Centers blocking. Centers holding. Centers making sandwiches.

What if we made the whole thread out of charts?

That do anything for ya?

 

[SECTION 11]

What if we made the whole thread out of charts?

That do anything for ya?

That would suffice.
Before the Steeler game I was this close to posting a thread devoted solely to Murray’s outfits, then decided nah, that’s stupid. One of my all time fails.

 

[cardncubfan]

I’d like to see a chart of nothing but centers. Centers blocking. Centers holding. Centers making sandwiches.

What about centers cutting blocks of cheese for the sandwiches that they are holding?

 

[daves]

Wouldn't this graph have been more interesting if the vertical axis was average yards allowed on third down? What does EPA add to this equation?

Maybe not; if the average distance to go on 3rd down is 7.5 yards, and you allow 7 yards, that's good! if average distance to go on 3rd down is 6.5 yards, and you allow 7 yards, that's bad! EPA captures that distinction better than raw yards.

 

[kerouac9]

Maybe not; if the average distance to go on 3rd down is 7.5 yards, and you allow 7 yards, that's good! if average distance to go on 3rd down is 6.5 yards, and you allow 7 yards, that's bad! EPA captures that distinction better than raw yards.

Does it? How is EPA determined?

 

[football karma]

That would suffice.
Before the Steeler game I was this close to posting a thread devoted solely to Murray’s outfits, then decided nah, that’s stupid. One of my all time fails.

its never too late for the Murray Fits thread

 

[SECTION 11]

What about centers cutting blocks of cheese for the sandwiches that they are holding?

I’m down with that. As long as it can be graphed and named something nebulous.

 

[daves]

Does it? How is EPA determined?

Pretty good explanation here.

In the context of 3rd down defense, giving up yardage for a first down allows the offense to continue its drive, resulting in a bigger increase in expected points for the offense.

 

[Cheesebeef]

What about centers cutting blocks of cheese for the sandwiches that they are holding?

What about Cheese cutting blocks of sandwiches for Centers he’s holding?

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’m down with that. As long as it can be graphed and named something nebulous.

Rhubarb EPA Chart.

 

[kerouac9]

Pretty good explanation here.

In the context of 3rd down defense, giving up yardage for a first down allows the offense to continue its drive, resulting in a bigger increase in expected points for the offense.

It’s so abstracted tho. I’d much rather see it measured against success rate or something that has more range. The human mind can’t really grok the difference between .05 EPA and .07 EPA but when graphed like this and without interrogating the scale lines it looks like differences are more/less dramatic than they are.

I’m also extremely wary of small sample sizes and I wish they’d append the N for each version.

 

[oaken1]

What about Cheese cutting blocks of sandwiches for Centers he’s holding?

Ooooo...which center are ya holding Cheesey??

Frodo...it's Frodo isn't it...we all saw LotR...everyone wanted to hold Frodo...