The Cardinals' 2011 Draft

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In assessing the Cardinals' greatest needs prior to the draft, these were the areas I focussed on:

1-Cardinal Tough:newcards:---adding toughness to a team that desperately needs it.

2-Improving the Cardinals' weakest areas: the outside pass rush, the left tackle position and the strong inside linebacker position.

3-Adding Players Who are Good Fits in the "Dink and Dunk" Offense, the Steeler-type 34 Defense and on Special Teams.

4-Adding Players Who Are Self-Starters and Are Highly Motivated.

Cardinal Tough :newcards::

Plusses: Peterson, Acho, Sherman

Question Marks: Williams, Housler, Sturdivant, Carter, Sampson

Improving the Cardinals' Weakest Areas:

A. The Outside Pass Rush---while Acho has a good motor and works his tail off, he dropped to the 4th round because he is only an average pass rusher.

This area was a major whiff for the Cardinals in a draft that was a good 10 players deep in very good edge rushers. This was my biggest disappointment in the draft and has been for the past several drafts.

When is it ever going to happen?

Ironically, two of our Division Rivals, who already have significantly more talent on the edge than we do, cashed in on adding edge talent:

SF: Aldon Smith (7) and Bruce Miller (239)

STL: Robert Quinn (14)

Now our left tackle will be even more challenged...

B. The Left Tackle Position

Total whiff...although the draft wasn't loaded with LT prospects---and the 4 best LT candidates, by far, were taken in the first round.

Every knowledgeable Cardinals' fan knows that Levi Brown does not have the ability to stifle good edge rushers---and yet---the Cardinal coaches continue to believe otherwise. Let's hope the Cardinals have an answer in free agency.

C. Strong Inside Linebacker.

Quan Sturdivant dropped to the 6th round because he is not an impact tackler---he's more of a drag-you-down arm tackler. He has good range and very good size and ahtleticism---but lacks the step up and smash you in the mouth instinct/mentality. These were the areas that concerned me about Karlos Dansby.

We still here in Arizona haven't had a step up and smash you in the mouth SILB in years...in years!

We need tough intimidators on this defense...not finesse guys.

Now---maybe Ray Horton lights a fire under Sturdivant and Sturdivant responds. He is physically capable.

There are better SILB propects on the UCFA list:

Nicholas Bellore will smash you in the mouth. So will Mario Harvey, even though he's not as tall as you'd prefer...but so what. Like Ray Horton preaches, "I want small guys who can hit."

But---again---there were some very good SILB prospects in this draft that were available in the third round as most of us expected them to be---but the Cardinals felt that drafting a situational TE was more important...which I still do not even remotely comprehend as a priority, even though I am happy we finally got a TE receiving target---that is, if he is ever utilized and thrown to.

System Fits:

Peterson---with his versatility and athletic prowess he fits into ANY system. And the great thing is, he will be coached up by Ray Horton and DeShea Townshend---and maybe Horton won't be afraid to start a rookie like his predecessor was. Plus, imagine what PP7 is going to do for our return game. Projection: Immediate starter at CB.

Williams---a better fit than Beanie Wells because Williams is quicker to the holes, is shiftier in the open field and is a much better pass receiver. Projection: will assume the #2 RB role behind Tim Hightower and will get 10-12 touches a game.

Housler---is an excellent fit in the dink and dunk. Projection: situational TE who will be flexed into the slot or motioned into it.

Acho---has to make the conversion from college DE to pro SOLB, but has the smarts and aggressiveness to convert quickly. Projection: backup SOLB to Clark Haggans, but used to spell Haggans a couple of times a game. May get some looks as the LDE in the 4 man rush.

Sherman---a superb fit for a variety of reasons. First of all, he becomes the new Sean Morey on STs---the lead blocker on kickoffs---and one of the leading tacklers on cover teams. Secondly, he becomes the team's FB who will lead the way for Hightower and Williams when the offense is in the 2 back sets---and at times will be kept in to block in passing situations. Remember how Whiz tried to use Spach, Patrick and Dray in that role and they got blown up? Well, this Sherman Tank won't. Projection: starter at FB and STs ace.

Sturdivant---unless he becomes a more instinctive (in terms of stepping up) and physcial tackler, he won't see much PT at SILB. What I wonder is: will Ray Horton and John Lott try to put 15 more pounds on him and move him to the outside? That may be his more natural position. Projection: practice squad to start with...moved up to the roster when ready.

Carter---Whiz told him he would play 34DE, which thrilled Carter because---here we go again---like Alan Branch, he doesn't want to play NT. What I question is whether he has the agility to play 34DE. He has the strength in running situations and seems like a hard worker. Projection: practice squad.

Sampson---good fit in the dink and dunk. Has short area slippery-ness and strength---good hands and RAC ability---and can sneak by you deep on occasion. Projection: practice squad.

Self Starters?

Peterson---this kid dares to be great. Yes, no question.

Williams---this past injury-riddled, less productive season humbled him a great deal (it was reported that some coaches at VT thought Williams got a little too full of himself after his big year in 2009) and now he has the opportunity he's dreamed of...but he is going to have to deal with the awkwardness of the Beanie Wells situation. However, I think this is a kid who dreams big and is willing to work hard to accomplish his goals. Yes.

Housler---very mature and diligent. Yes.

Acho---is the epitome of a self-starter. Yes.

Sherman---Whiz likes gym rats, well this kid will be the first one in, last one out. Yes.

Sturdivant---he will be motivated to prove his talent. Yes.

Carter---pushed himself hard this past year and saw the value and reward of hard work. Yes.

Sampson---with his age comes maturity. Yes.

Grades:

1-Cardinal Tough:newcards:? C+

2-Improving Weakest Areas: D

3-Acquiring Fits: B

4-Acquiring Self-Starters: A


Overall Grade: C+/B-

Comment: The organization's philosophy of how to build a championship caliber team and roster remains in question. This draft was the kind of draft a team makes when it already has strength at the key positions.

This was a draft that was focused on adding situational players. There may not be many present or future starters in this draft. Peterson and Sherman should become starters this year. The others will have to rise above the existing and future competition.

When a team keeps having to use high drafts at the same positions---while ignoring its greatest needs---that's a recipe for failure.

This draft puts further doubt on the team's scouts' understanding of how to draft for the Steeler-type 34 defense. Hopefully, once ensconsed in the draft preparations, Ray Horton can exert his infuence.

The good news is---it looks as if Whiz is now drafting players who fit the dink and dunk. Hopefully, he will realize that Levi Brown is not a dink and dunk LT---sooner rather than later.

Which leads to the question of free agency.

Michael Bidwill has vowed that the Cardinals are going to be "aggressive." This has been his mantra throughout his ticket sales PR campaign.

One has to wonder, however, what Bidwill's definition of aggressive is. This draft was not an aggressive draft---and what this draft has done is put enormous pressure on free agency---and quite frankly, based on the team's typically dilatory and passive aggressive free agency procedures, does anyone have confidence that Bidwill will follow through?

Would it surprise you if the one big move is to sign a QB and little else will be done to improve the rest of the team? That may be what Bidwill's talking about when he says aggressive: the team will sign a veteran QB.

I sincerely hope Michael Bidwill is good on his word---and---that he recognizes that this is one soft football team he has on his hands now---and that adding the veteran QB is only one of several key additions the team needs to make in order to make a legitimate run to recapture the NFC West division crown.
 
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It would appear that FA would include OL as well with Faneca likely done. I didn't really see enough of Hadnot to be conclusive about him. Some have suggested trying him at center or LT but that is, of course, unknown.

IMO the defense seems to be much improved through this draft. Peterson, obviously but Acho can't do anything but help unless he just totally busts out, which seems unlikely.

Williams is indeed a puzzler, but as many others have pointed out, THT or Wells is likely done. The coaching staff must have their belly full of 1 or both. It's possible they keep both with Wright gone.

As OJ Simpson once told Cosell on MNF..."Howard you have a firm grasp of the obvious", I simply state QB is the key to the whole situation
 

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Thx for all your hard work & thoughts Mitch on the draft for several weeks!!!

1) I think Quan will be a very good player for this team for years

2) I would have prefered Leshore over Williams

3) This team as you say undervalues the importance of 3-4 OLBs & I dont understand why. Horton will never maximize his potential until we adress this.

4) why this team refuses to adress the OT position is mind boggling...chances are Levi is history after this season (not a big loss) but leaves a hole

5) I really, really wish the Redbirds would have chosen Gates in Rd 4 given the uncertainty of #15, #80 & #11...I think we're headed for trouble next year!!!

6) If this team doesn't pull out all the stops to land Palmer, Orton or Kolb :bang: Signing Bulger or standing pat IMO spells the end of the Fitz era in AZ
 
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I bet it is Hightower who has to go, not Beanie..

Hightower is a fit, Beanie is less so.

Hightower runs exceptionally hard and for good ypc (4.2 & 4.8 the last two years), is tough (lowers his pads and fights for extra yards), is a much improved blocker in pass pro and is a very good receiver (34 catches for 237 yards in 2008, 63 catches for 438 yards in 2009)...and he's got a very good nose for the end zone (10 TDs in 2008, 8 TDs in 2009).

The Cardinals tendered him (RFA) for a reason.

There's a better than 50/50 chance, the Cardinals will try to trade Beanie after the CBA is reached. Beanie fits a more conventional system.
 

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Hightower is a fit, Beanie is less so.

Hightower runs exceptionally hard and for good ypc (4.2 & 4.8 the last two years), is tough (lowers his pads and fights for extra yards), is a much improved blocker in pass pro and is a very good receiver (34 catches for 237 yards in 2008, 63 catches for 438 yards in 2009)...and he's got a very good nose for the end zone (10 TDs in 2008, 8 TDs in 2009).

The Cardinals tendered him (RFA) for a reason.

There's a better than 50/50 chance, the Cardinals will try to trade Beanie after the CBA is reached. Beanie fits a more conventional system.

I smell a trade with the Bengals ;)
 

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I would've been much happier had the Cardinals draft more resembled Denver/Buffalo by stacking the defense witn LBs...I would've drafted LB/DE's in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th if I were in charge...
 
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I would've been much happier had the Cardinals draft more resembled Denver/Buffalo by stacking the defense witn LBs...I would've drafted LB/DE's in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th if I were in charge...

Think of this, LIAC:

38. Akeem Ayers, UCLA or Brooks Reed, Arizona

69. Justin Houston, Georgia or Mason Foster, Washington
 

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Overall Grade: C+/B-
Nice write up Mitch but...would you please just pick one grade. You already added the pluses and minuses to make the grading system more elaborate. So what is your grade, C+ or B-?:)

Comment: The organization's philosophy of how to build a championship caliber team and roster remains in question. This draft was the kind of draft a team makes when it already has strength at the key positions.
Agree. In my opinion this team still doesn't "get it" and this draft is further proof. Don't get me wrong though, I liked the draft but don't think it will go a long way in making this team champions. The most important aspects of football, IMHO, are in this order: 1.franchise QB(fail, except for lucking into Warner) 2. solid O-line(failing since the 70's), and 3. pass rush(spotty effort at best). The Cards have tried here and there but not with the gusto and urgency for which these areas require. As far as this draft goes: Sam Acho, a guy I like and taken at a spot of good value but...that's it.

The good news is---it looks as if Whiz is now drafting players who fit the dink and dunk.
A slight change in philosophy would help this team now that Warner is gone. I don't think they ever adjusted to that fact last year.

Which leads to the question of free agency.

Michael Bidwill has vowed that the Cardinals are going to be "aggressive." This has been his mantra throughout his ticket sales PR campaign.
:lmao:What a joke.

The Cardinals need to address three positions in free-agency and/or trade in this order: 1. QB 2. O-line 3. LB

Let me just reiterate that I like this draft based on just the talent acquired ( I'd give it a B) but I question where these guys are going to fit under the current offensive and defensive philosophies being utilized (perhaps there's a change in the works?). And, none of the "big three" positions being addressed is scary.
 

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Think of this, LIAC:

38. Akeem Ayers, UCLA or Brooks Reed, Arizona

69. Justin Houston, Georgia or Mason Foster, Washington

of the four likely suspects:

Ayers is more of an all around type LB, not an edge rusher.

Brooks Reed fits the prototype

Justin Houston failed multiple drug tests. Does anybody think more money and free time will solve that problem when he is in the pros?

Mason Foster is again, more an inside guy than an edge rusher.

I know some love the shotgun approach to a perceived weakness -- but only so many guys can make the team at a spot. If you use a draft pick on them, you need to keep them, even if they aren't ready to start in week 1, or even year 1. Since you drafted, lets say, 3 of them -- the roster numbers game says you have to play them even if they are ready or not.
 

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Here is what two Sports Magazines say about our draft picks:
Lndy’s Sports Pro Football Sporting News
Rating Round Rating Round

Peterson 8.4 1 8 1

Williams 7.8 2 8.3 1

Housler 5.6 4 5.9 4

Acho 7.5 2 6.5 3

Sherman 5.2 FA NL NL

Sturdivant 6.7 3 6.0 3

Carter WW NL 4.5 6

Sampson WW NL NL NL

WW means worth watching NL means not listed

I am not as euphoric as other about the Cardinals draft.
1. I can’t believe they couldn’t have done better than Housler in the 3rd and Sherman in the 4th.
2. No players were drafted for the OL and this is a major weakness not likely to be solved by FA.
 

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Mitch,

May I also say thank you for many of your insightful posts leading up to the draft and now, afterwards.

The final key to the success or lack thereof of this draft will be determined by FA....if and or when.

But there are certain indicators as to what we might see given who we picked. We drafted players who will:

a) Alter our passing game....a running back who can catch out of the backfield. THT wasn't bad, but focused so much in catching the ball that he lost explosiveness after the catch. Williams will be different in this regard. He's more natural as a pass catching RB. The pick of Sherman will add a dimension....from both a lead blocker in the running game as well as a stay in the backfield type and provide toughness as a QB protector. As you have noted, he's one tough hombre...something that I feel has been missing in our most recent FB's.

b) We took a flyer on Housler....a calculated gamble. Sometimes a team has to "think to be great" (see Carolina with Newton). Personally, I think we got the best TE in the draft....did we need it at #3....no, I would have taken Akeem Ayers but he does bring a weapon to be considered by opposing defenses. What I really like is that he is a person not interested in "bling". He's a married man with a young child.

I think, that if THT doesnt re-sign for a reasonable deal, he's gone, not Beanie. There is room for all three of them as well as LSH. Wright is gone.

In FA from the QB perspective, I trade our #2 next year for Palmer. Wouldn't give them anything more. I'm not intersted in Kolb/Orton. Hasselback/Bulger.....pick em.

I think we get five final roster players out of this draft....Peterson (the best athelete in the draft, but not sure he is the best corner), Williams, Housler, Sherman and Acho. Not bad IMHO.

I'd love to hear about who you think are the four primary FA's we should target.

Ciao.
 
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of the four likely suspects:

Ayers is more of an all around type LB, not an edge rusher.

Brooks Reed fits the prototype

Justin Houston failed multiple drug tests. Does anybody think more money and free time will solve that problem when he is in the pros?

Mason Foster is again, more an inside guy than an edge rusher.

I know some love the shotgun approach to a perceived weakness -- but only so many guys can make the team at a spot. If you use a draft pick on them, you need to keep them, even if they aren't ready to start in week 1, or even year 1. Since you drafted, lets say, 3 of them -- the roster numbers game says you have to play them even if they are ready or not.

Right, football karma. If the thought was stacking LBers, I was including other options. Now I see LIAC meant OLB/DE types.

Bruce Carter was available at #38 too. He went #40.

Justin Houston at #69 would have been a steal, imo. I think he will have a good career.
 

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Wow C/b- is a high grade, PP is a great pick just like every first rounder for Whiz and Graves. He may earn that grade by himself?

But He aint worth what Cleveland got for the next pick? few are.

after the 1st round, picking hurt players high, taking risk at every pick just like last year, I guess just don't compare it to a decent personnel department and live with it.

Can't really compare it to good teams, but can't compare the records either. It is very obvious that The Cards went the SB on Denny Greens personnel abilities, Buster Davis, Cody Brown, fA's like Ross, Mcfadden, Porter and Faneca, Ouch. ts painful to fan for.

I disagree with some on Levi and Beanies value. I think they are both great players, I've said why many times. Levi is dogged by opportunity to pass block 600+ times a year, while beanie is starved with 126 carries?
 

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Mitch,

May I also say thank you for many of your insightful posts leading up to the draft and now, afterwards.

The final key to the success or lack thereof of this draft will be determined by FA....if and or when.

But there are certain indicators as to what we might see given who we picked. We drafted players who will:

a) Alter our passing game....a running back who can catch out of the backfield. THT wasn't bad, but focused so much in catching the ball that he lost explosiveness after the catch. Williams will be different in this regard. He's more natural as a pass catching RB. The pick of Sherman will add a dimension....from both a lead blocker in the running game as well as a stay in the backfield type and provide toughness as a QB protector. As you have noted, he's one tough hombre...something that I feel has been missing in our most recent FB's.

b) We took a flyer on Housler....a calculated gamble. Sometimes a team has to "think to be great" (see Carolina with Newton). Personally, I think we got the best TE in the draft....did we need it at #3....no, I would have taken Akeem Ayers but he does bring a weapon to be considered by opposing defenses. What I really like is that he is a person not interested in "bling". He's a married man with a young child.

I think, that if THT doesnt re-sign for a reasonable deal, he's gone, not Beanie. There is room for all three of them as well as LSH. Wright is gone.

In FA from the QB perspective, I trade our #2 next year for Palmer. Wouldn't give them anything more. I'm not intersted in Kolb/Orton. Hasselback/Bulger.....pick em.

I think we get five final roster players out of this draft....Peterson (the best athelete in the draft, but not sure he is the best corner), Williams, Housler, Sherman and Acho. Not bad IMHO.

I'd love to hear about who you think are the four primary FA's we should target.

Ciao.

Co-sign.

This seems to be the thread to thank Mitch on all the draft prep info and posts so let me join in. Truly appreciate the effort, knowledge and insights. While I don't always come to the same conclussion my hats off to you for your obvious FB IQ.

While maybe the Cards didn't choose soley on "Card Tough" they did stick to another theme which is hard working, smart players who are good citizens with a incredible desire to succeed.
 

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of the four likely suspects:

Ayers is more of an all around type LB, not an edge rusher.

Brooks Reed fits the prototype

Justin Houston failed multiple drug tests. Does anybody think more money and free time will solve that problem when he is in the pros?

Mason Foster is again, more an inside guy than an edge rusher.

I know some love the shotgun approach to a perceived weakness -- but only so many guys can make the team at a spot. If you use a draft pick on them, you need to keep them, even if they aren't ready to start in week 1, or even year 1. Since you drafted, lets say, 3 of them -- the roster numbers game says you have to play them even if they are ready or not.

I think that Sam Acho will be as good or better an NFL player than Ayers. Mark it down.
 

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Hightower is a fit, Beanie is less so.

Hightower runs exceptionally hard and for good ypc (4.2 & 4.8 the last two years), is tough (lowers his pads and fights for extra yards), is a much improved blocker in pass pro and is a very good receiver (34 catches for 237 yards in 2008, 63 catches for 438 yards in 2009)...and he's got a very good nose for the end zone (10 TDs in 2008, 8 TDs in 2009).

The Cardinals tendered him (RFA) for a reason.

There's a better than 50/50 chance, the Cardinals will try to trade Beanie after the CBA is reached. Beanie fits a more conventional system.

I agree, Beannie needs to be the man. That won't be the case as long as we have Fitz. Besides he hasn't shown any consistency. Maybe he'll come into camp with something to prove.

Otherwise:

If we can pry Palmer from Cinncy for him, we should do it.
 

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When you are terrible on both sides of the ball it becomes difficult to "stack picks" at one position, even if it is a need. It's the same of the difficulties that come with trading this years pick for a higher pick the following year. If you have a solid roster, it isn't an issue. If you don't have good roster depth, then it is an approach that can kill you.
 

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Great stuff, Mitch. I understand the frustration in not getting some of our major needs addressed. I would have loved to get a top-flight pass rusher, awesome middle linebacker, or franchise left tackle. However, I am not the least bit disappointed with our draft. A quote in Sando's article today sums up why.

"Put it this way: Would you rather have the highest-rated running back or, say, the sixth-rated outside linebacker? Two words: Cody Brown."

If you don't have a high grade on a kid then don't draft him.

Look at some of the pass rushers who were drafted in the first 2 rounds 2 years ago:
Aaron Curry (his pas rush skills weren't his main attraction)
Aaron Maybin
Larry English
Robert Ayers
Clint Sintim
Connor Barwin
David Veikune
Paul Kruger
Cody Brown

Last year, only Carlos Dunlap had more than 4.5 sacks of the 11 4-3 DEs or 3-4OLBs taken in the first 2 rounds. I don't feel this statistic is really valuable, because the 3-4 OLB transition definitely takes time. However, I just feel like people are really reaching and overrating some of these kids because of the importance of the position.
 

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Good point, Binkar. However, I do think that Mason Foster will be a good inside linebacker and he would have filled a need for us in the 3rd round.
 

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