The Cardinals will try to trade out of the first pick

[BW52]

I work with old people.. I understand how all of you function. Haha

Just as long as I am still functioning I`m happy.

 

[Garthshort]

Guernsey, so if the Cards take Murray, all the other QB needy teams will be fighting with each other to offer Arizona a #1 plus in order to get Rosen. I sure hope you're correct.

 

[oaken1]

I’m not saying I disagree with that, but if that’s an absolute fact why isn’t anyone interested in trading for him? That’s what I keep coming back to when I think about ride or die with josh. If other teams are going to draft a qb, why wouldn’t they give a mid round 1st for him rather than taking the dreck I see them drafting in mock drafts? These are nfl teams and decision makers that are seemingly balking on trading value for Rosen. I’m not saying this to be argumentative bc I’ll be good with moving forward with josh. But it’s definitely a big question mark in my mind.

Because he is not available? Maybe keim put a huge price tag on him? .... Anyone is available if the price is right.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

all those qb's selected ahead of him had better measurables with the exception of bake mayfield whose leadership is off the charts. Last year was the best QB class since 83... this year is ****... Josh Rosen would have been the first QB off the board this year hands down.

Then why does no one want to trade for him??? That’s what I keep asking myself.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

there are teams interested in trading for him but we have not made him available.

Hmm I suppose that’s possible. But it’s not like we are hearing teams clamoring for him.

 

[BigRedRage]

Hmm I suppose that’s possible. But it’s not like we are hearing teams clamoring for him.

If we did take Murray, QB needy teams will be on us like white on rice. Even more so after haskins gets taken.

 

[Solar7]

Hmm I suppose that’s possible. But it’s not like we are hearing teams clamoring for him.

If teams are clamoring for him, we shouldn’t trade him. No one is clamoring for Kyler either.

It’s just one of those situations. Kyler means nowhere near as much to the rest of the NFL as he does to Kliffy. Rosen doesn’t have spectacular tape from last year, which has plummeted his value. We’re in a rock and a hard place.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If teams are clamoring for him, we shouldn’t trade him. No one is clamoring for Kyler either.

It’s just one of those situations. Kyler means nowhere near as much to the rest of the NFL as he does to Kliffy. Rosen doesn’t have spectacular tape from last year, which has plummeted his value. We’re in a rock and a hard place.

But if we are okay with understanding that Rosen stunk due to the team and coaching around him surely other teams front offices know that too. We aren’t talking about ESPN analysts or other teams fans. We are talking about NFL front offices. And if they still don’t want him doesn’t that mean he kinda sucks? I’m hoping not. But writing in the wall sure seems to point in that direction.

 

[Russ Smith]

Then why does no one want to trade for him??? That’s what I keep asking myself.

I heard a stoner on classic radio this morning tell the host that the Raiders are saying they like Murray to try and convince the cards to draft MUrray so the Raiders can then trade for Rosen. He sounded pretty convincing but again, he was stoned, and it was 6;30 in the morning.

 

[Zeno]

I heard a stoner on classic radio this morning tell the host that the Raiders are saying they like Murray to try and convince the cards to draft MUrray so the Raiders can then trade for Rosen. He sounded pretty convincing but again, he was stoned, and it was 6;30 in the morning.

 

[AZCrazy]

Think the Cards and Raiders will work on a Manning/Rivers switcheroo? Maybe that's the big secret that got the Raiders staff an early vacation.

 

[dscher]

Just as long as I am still functioning I`m happy.

No doubt

 

[dscher]

But if we are okay with understanding that Rosen stunk due to the team and coaching around him surely other teams front offices know that too. We aren’t talking about ESPN analysts or other teams fans. We are talking about NFL front offices. And if they still don’t want him doesn’t that mean he kinda sucks? I’m hoping not. But writing in the wall sure seems to point in that direction.

So you acknowledge Murray means something to KK? Shouldnt that matter in the draft decision?

 

[CardNots]

I heard a stoner on classic radio this morning tell the host that the Raiders are saying they like Murray to try and convince the cards to draft MUrray so the Raiders can then trade for Rosen. He sounded pretty convincing but again, he was stoned, and it was 6;30 in the morning.

I’m not thinking that is too early to begin self medication.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Think the Cards and Raiders will work on a Manning/Rivers switcheroo? Maybe that's the big secret that got the Raiders staff an early vacation.

An abrupt and unprecedented booting. I would respect Mayock if this happens

 

[Russ Smith]

I’m not thinking that is too early to begin self medication.

The guy calls in 2-3 times a week so I hear it on my way to work. He may not actually be stoned but he sure sounds like it, the host makes fun of him regularly about it but it may be an act too.

 

[BW52]

I heard a stoner on classic radio this morning tell the host that the Raiders are saying they like Murray to try and convince the cards to draft MUrray so the Raiders can then trade for Rosen. He sounded pretty convincing but again, he was stoned, and it was 6;30 in the morning.

And there is a problem how?

 

[KYCardFan]

Weinfuss and Somers just a pair of whiners...Go for Murray, swing for the fences

Josh Rosen showed me last year, he is not THE man, he is Jay Cutler 2.0

 

[CardsFan88]

Weinfuss and Somers just a pair of whiners...Go for Murray, swing for the fences

Josh Rosen showed me last year, he is not THE man, he is Jay Cutler 2.0

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Someone needs to take his place in the Smokin Jay Cutler meme.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

So you acknowledge Murray means something to KK? Shouldnt that matter in the draft decision?

Huh? Was this directed at someone else?

 

[dscher]

Huh? Was this directed at someone else?

That was for Solar I think

 

[Solar7]

But if we are okay with understanding that Rosen stunk due to the team and coaching around him surely other teams front offices know that too. We aren’t talking about ESPN analysts or other teams fans. We are talking about NFL front offices. And if they still don’t want him doesn’t that mean he kinda sucks? I’m hoping not. But writing in the wall sure seems to point in that direction.

I'm not fighting the fight that Rosen is an ironclad superstar. The truth is, he probably is just going to be solid at best. It's hard to energize a fanbase by trading for a guy who is already in dispute. There are 3-4 guys who are going to go in the first. I think teams recognize that both he and Kyler aren't going to be superstars.

 

[Solar7]

So you acknowledge Murray means something to KK? Shouldnt that matter in the draft decision?

It matters, but KK is not a pro personnel guy yet. He can love Murray, but a guy like Keim or Tom Clements needs to bring him back to earth.

 

[dscher]

It matters, but KK is not a pro personnel guy yet. He can love Murray, but a guy like Keim or Tom Clements needs to bring him back to earth.

You'd want Tom Clements to tell the new head coach what's up?! Dang.