The desperate desire to trade down is frustrating

[Krangodnzr]

My dream scenario right now is to draft Bosa (or dark horse Josh Allen) and to trade up from #33 to get N'Keal Harry.

Harry and Kirk. Two Arizona boys with different styles that can complement each other.

 

[Chopper0080]

My dream scenario right now is to draft Bosa (or dark horse Josh Allen) and to trade up from #33 to get N'Keal Harry.

Harry and Kirk. Two Arizona boys with different styles that can complement each other.

My dreams are different than your dreams.

Replace Harry with David Edwards and we are closer..

 

[Krangodnzr]

My dreams are different than your dreams.

Replace Harry with David Edwards and we are closer..

Edwards is a nice prospect. My thought process is that it is much easier fix WR than it will be to fix the line.

I think Harry is the best WR to come out of ASU in at least 25 years and he's got enough skills to be at least a quality #2 in the NFL.

I think the Cards need to focus FA on oline and use picks later in the draft for depth. The problem is that while Keim has been great at finding prospects at some positions, he's been horrible finding oline.

 

[Chopper0080]

Edwards is a nice prospect. My thought process is that it is much easier fix WR than it will be to fix the line.

I think Harry is the best WR to come out of ASU in at least 25 years and he's got enough skills to be at least a quality #2 in the NFL.

I think the Cards need to focus FA on oline and use picks later in the draft for depth. The problem is that while Keim has been great at finding prospects at some positions, he's been horrible finding oline.

I want a year of Edwards on the roster so I don't make a bad decision regarding Humphries moving forward. History shows that Edwards would see some action.

 

[scandalous_b]

What makes you guys so sure Bosa is better than josh allen?

Bosa dominated for all 2.5 years of college football that he played. He was the unquestioned star on a defensive line that was LOADED with NFL talent. All the pass rushing advanced metrics support the fact that Bosa was the most dominant pass rusher in all of college football - and by a pretty wide margin too.
I think Josh Allen is a great prospect. 17 sacks in one season is no joke. He made a huge leap this season, but I don't think his one season of great production is enough to overtake Bosa as the premier edge rusher in this draft.

Also, Devin white looks like the next Ray Lewis and we desperately need a field general in the middle.

Devin White is nothing like Ray Lewis and is not considered anywhere near that kind of a prospect. He's a very good prospect and will deservedly be picked in the first round, but he's not some sort of generational talent by any means. There's a Devin White in every draft class.

And Greedy Williams is a 6 fot 2 CB who can run with anybody. We have been messing around with projects at CB2 for years, why not lock down the role.

I just saw Daniel Jeremiah tweeted out today how there's no CB in this class comparable to Marshon Lattimore or Denzel Ward from the previous two drafts. I think Greedy is a solid 1st round prospect, but like Devin White, I don't think he's like a generational talent by any means

 

[ajcardfan]

I'm glad you've done your research. I just don't think people on here realize how good and advanced he is. I can't imagine the majority of Cardinals fans have ever actually seen him play and are just looking at his stats or whatever.

If this were a draft that had an elite QB that teams were dying to get a shot at, I would completely understand wanting to look at trading down. The reality is that Bosa is clearly the prize of this draft, and teams are not going to sacrifice what you would typically expect for the #1 overall pick since it won't be for a QB.

It's amazing to me that everyone on here whines about Keim's drafting, yet demands that he trades the pick so that he gets more opportunities to mangle the draft.

At this point in time, I would have zero problem standing pat and taking Bosa #1. However, this stuff is just getting started a ton can happen, including an offer for #1 that we can't refuse.

If we could add two or three picks (including a first next year which is a given for #1), and still draft Jonah Williams, I think that could be our best possible draft scenario. Clemson whipped Alabama, but no one whipped Jonah Williams from what I saw. And, I tried to watch him on every Alabama snap.

 

[TheCardFan]

Joe Barksdale looking even better now with Air Raid.

Hasn't given up a sack in 20+ games.

 

[scandalous_b]

At this point in time, I would have zero problem standing pat and taking Bosa #1. However, this stuff is just getting started a ton can happen, including an offer for #1 that we can't refuse.

If we could add two or three picks (including a first next year which is a given for #1), and still draft Jonah Williams, I think that could be our best possible draft scenario. Clemson whipped Alabama, but no one whipped Jonah Williams from what I saw. And, I tried to watch him on every Alabama snap.

I would advise you to either rewatch the game, or just never enter the scouting business lol...

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With that being said, I would have no issue taking Jonah Williams if we traded down for a ridiculous offer - he just should not be in consideration at #1.

 

[ajcardfan]

I would advise you to either rewatch the game, or just never enter the scouting business lol...

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With that being said, I would have no issue taking Jonah Williams if we traded down for a ridiculous offer - he just should not be in consideration at #1.

I knew someone would post a video like this. I didn't see him every play when I was watching. I missed parts of game entirely as well. It was what I saw, period.

Thanks for the video though.

 

[Zeno]

At this point in time, I would have zero problem standing pat and taking Bosa #1. However, this stuff is just getting started a ton can happen, including an offer for #1 that we can't refuse.

If we could add two or three picks (including a first next year which is a given for #1), and still draft Jonah Williams, I think that could be our best possible draft scenario. Clemson whipped Alabama, but no one whipped Jonah Williams from what I saw. And, I tried to watch him on every Alabama snap.

I watched the game, did my best to zero in on him once the score was no longer in question and I saw nothing of his performance that made me think he was worth a top 10 pick. Very ordinary and no better than the OT's for Clemson, who aren't being touted as first rounders.

 

[Chopper0080]

Jonah Williams comes with a similar skill set out of college as Justin Pugh. Short-armed, technique blocker who people worry doesn't project to LT or even potentially RT.

Pugh was 6'4, 307 at the combine with 32" arms...Jonah Williams is listed at 6'5, 301 on the Bama website and is rumored to have short arms.

Look at Pugh's career, and see why Williams is not a top 10 draft talent.