"The Four Horsemen" WR stats and projections

[Russ Smith]

I disagree a bit with this. Teams rush their ends at Kyler to keep him in the pocket. a bootleg or rollout rolls him right into that containment rush.

You can make an argument for a playaction boot but that is something done from under C which we don't do enough to look normal.

Yep if they didn't have Donald in the middle I think you could expect 1-2 times where we run that same play the Bucs did with Godwin for the TD. That play worked because he cut it back they were so concerned with him going wide the middle was open and they blocked it.

You know they're going to try and contain Kyler wide so he hands off to a Wr going inside but to make it work you have to get donald blocked.

Actually twice in that game Tampa tried to run a middle screen to Gronk, once he LB held him and it wasn't called the other time the timing was all mucked up and Brady just threw it away. I think it's clear Tampa felt they can take advantage of how active Donald is get him to take himself out of plays and then go right at where he left.

 

[THESMEL]

If we have the ability to run with power, this is the time to apply it, i don’t see our receivers as the hideous four horsemen, though I think all 4 can crap a 100yard game each week, because they have! pick your poison. just think connor can run produce 1/2 second extra with sustained carries , chase cannot - our unicorn knows what to do with a 1/2 second, much more then can Stafford can do with the same amount of time. But we won’t, seems 11 carries each is the peaak of our play callers rushing ability.

 

[SoonerLou]

Core is pretty scary outside Green's early drops.

Im sure Kyler probably checked down on some open wrs downfield. I know I saw Hopkins running free for a potential TD.

 

[HomerPimpson]

The biggest development is Kyler checking down to Maxx or Edmonds. He didn't do that before, he scrambled or threw an incompletion or an INT. It's been a huge step forward.

 

[Chopper0080]

I like the little half roll out they did with Kyler today. That is something you can do to move the pocket a little but not roll him right into the containment rush.

 

[Shane]

I see AJ had another decent game?

 

[MrYeahBut]

I see AJ had another decent game?

Huge TD catch early made the Rams take notice their secondary was in for a long day.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

 

[slanidrac16]

The biggest development is Kyler checking down to Maxx or Edmonds. He didn't do that before, he scrambled or threw an incompletion or an INT. It's been a huge step forward.

Definitely. He was criticised for the apparent inability to throw over the middle. He’s put that to bed.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

Typical contract year performance from a Card draft pick

 

[SoonerLou]

Expect a few clips of Kirk being open. Dont let his stats fool you. One time he was open for a TD, but Kyler saw him late and then Donald was closing in.

 

[slanidrac16]

It’s amazing how many fans can examine replays, still shots and what not then criticize where the ball should have went with the benefit of not having 6000 lbs. of beef flailing away around them looking to take your head off. Not to mention you have about 2.0 seconds to make a decision.
4-0 and averaging 35 pts. A game. Enjoy. Every qb in every game “ misses” an open receiver now and then.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I remember saying in the off-season that we would have a top 5 receiving core and being laughed at lol.

 

[SoonerLou]

Kirk's PPF grade went UP after just 1 catch for 5 yards. As I said he was open several times down the field.

Christian Kirk | Jacksonville Jaguars WR | NFL and PFF stats

NFL and PFF player stats for Jacksonville Jaguars WR Christian Kirk on Pro Football Focus.

www.pff.com

 

[Stout]

I remember saying in the off-season that we would have a top 5 receiving core and being laughed at lol.

Yup. I did a lot of that cackling, I'll admit, and so far, you look pretty darn prescient. To be fair, Keim took some ginormous gambles that all seem to be paying off at the same time. That's a terrible strategy to build a team, but hey, if it's working...

 

[cardsfanmd]

Yup. I did a lot of that cackling, I'll admit, and so far, you look pretty darn prescient. To be fair, Keim took some ginormous gambles that all seem to be paying off at the same time. That's a terrible strategy to build a team, but hey, if it's working...

Can you imagine if the money spent on the trash cans that are Phillips and Kennard had actually bolstered our front 7….

 

[wa52lz]

Expect a few clips of Kirk being open. Dont let his stats fool you. One time he was open for a TD, but Kyler saw him late and then Donald was closing in.

You can blame his performance on me, started him in FF for some reason. I know better

 

[ajcardfan]

Can you imagine if the money spent on the trash cans that are Phillips and Kennard had actually bolstered our front 7….

Kennard was the guy who stuffed Stafford on the goal line sneak.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Can you imagine if the money spent on the trash cans that are Phillips and Kennard had actually bolstered our front 7….

Is it too much to ask for Phillips just to give us half a season over the last two years. Big presence who can get a push in the middle of the field could really elevate this D to an elite level.

They’re a pretty solid bend but don’t break D as is, but they could start straight breaking offenses with him as the anchor in the middle.

 

[DVontel]

Kennard sucks but I don’t think he’s absolutely useless like Phillips. I don’t think the DL will improve even with him back.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Yup. I did a lot of that cackling, I'll admit, and so far, you look pretty darn prescient. To be fair, Keim took some ginormous gambles that all seem to be paying off at the same time. That's a terrible strategy to build a team, but hey, if it's working...

I think that to move the needle as a team, you have to take some risks.

I know I said this all offseason, if you looked at the Bengals tape last year, you came away saying "Man, Burrow threw ducks at AJ Green." I'll take a calculated risk on a seven time Pro Bowler.

It's funny because even after the Titans game, people were still saying we should have signed Curtis Samuel. Curtis Samuel can't hold AJ Green's jockstrap.

 

[cardsfanmd]

Is it too much to ask for Phillips just to give us half a season over the last two years. Big presence who can get a push in the middle of the field could really elevate this D to an elite level.

They’re a pretty solid bend but don’t break D as is, but they could start straight breaking offenses with him as the anchor in the middle.

I’d like this 100 times if I could.

 

[SoonerLou]

You must be registered for see images attach

 

[BritCard]

You must be registered for see images attach

Rondale lagging. I feel a big Rondale game coming up.

 

[PACardsFan]

Good to see that the regular whiners on this board (see page 1) are being proven wrong. Murray is exactly what some of us said from day 1. He’s a special talent, a difference maker, and a winner. Continue to give him weapons & get out of his way. No one is perfect in the NFL, and everyone must strive for improvement. That includes K1. So many criticized his ability or inability on intermediate throws. His success in the 10-20 range has been meteoric from year 1 to the current year. The old timers on this board like myself have NEVER seen anyone do this for the Cardinals, and the newbies may never see it again after Murray. Enjoy the moment.

 

[AZfaninMN]

We’re on pace to have 4 receivers over 800 yards and have 5 players with 60 or more catches. Now we added Ertz, who can take Maxx production and then some. We are exciting