The HC Candidates Who Will Blow MB&SK's Socks Off

TheCardFan

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What about Schwartz's coaching record makes him palatable? 1 winning season in 5 ranging from 2-14 to 7-9. Granted he took over an 0-16 team but after going 10-6 he went 4-12. In short, no thanks.

The search for a HC is so much like QBOF. We all get excited about the potential but at the end of the day, 9 out of 10 don't meet expectations.
 

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I think Patricia ends up with the Lions. Their GM Quinn came from the Patriots and they already have a good relationship(and also Stafford). He is their number one target per Detroit sports writers.
 

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What am I missing? Despite Belichick and Brady offense to support, NE defense is not seattle or vikings good. Why the mad love for Patricia? If he was not on patriots team, will he get an interview?
 

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Keenum could have 50 td and 0 int and id be pissed if he was our starter. He's horrible lucky year lucky system and great D. Case freaking Keenum


I happened to catch Stephen A. Smith on his last show of 2017. He took one last phone call with about a minute left and the caller wanted to know what he thought about Case Keenum. Stephen A goes off on the dude... The last call of the year and you ask about Case Freaking Keenum!!!... Get outta here!!!!, then he hangs up on the dude.. lol
 

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What's palatable about Gruden's record after winning a Super Bowl with Tony Dungy's team?

45/51 and there are some here who'd salivate at getting him here.
I guess Gruden building Oakland up into a contender makes no never mind to you?
 

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I don't like Schwartz or Munchak. Both were failures as Head Coaches and I doubt they will be any better the second time around.

Schwartz getting any play for HC is a head scratcher to me. He was a HORRIBLE one. Plus, his defenses are like Fisher's/Williams'- dirty, filthy and out to end careers. No thanks.
 

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I hope for Patricia, I think he is the next Bellicheck. And with 44 years he is young enough to be a HC for the next 20 years, that could be some SB runs.

I hope the Lions don't get him because of how they operate. But we will see, now we have to wait and see what is next.
 

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Hopefully we can find a smart young coach that could be here for an extended stay, which imo breeds success. We don’t need an old coach with old philosophy’s which is what we had in Arians, imo it’s time to go young even with the coaching staff and build something long term. One thing the great teams have is stability not changing coaches every few years.
 

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I hope for Patricia, I think he is the next Bellicheck. And with 44 years he is young enough to be a HC for the next 20 years, that could be some SB runs.

I hope the Lions don't get him because of how they operate. But we will see, now we have to wait and see what is next.

I am not a big fan of the Belichick coaching tree, but in all fairness I think Patricia is the one assistant coach under him who actually emulates his mentor as far as managing and preparation. It is not about how Patricia coaches the defense, it's how he will manage being a head coach and not a coordinator. Patricia is also a fiery no nonsense guy who will hold players and staff accountable, just like his coaching experience has taught him. I do not look at the head coach for being the hands on guy making the calls as much as the head guy who leads his coordinators to be successful
 

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I hope we go with a young hopefully “modern” guy and not a retread like Schwartz, Haley, Munchak etc.
 

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I think that obviously the franchise depends on the deveolopment at QB, whoever they draft. This makes Defilipo or Shurmer the most viable hires imo.

They mtl are going to offer some high picks to move up in the draft and secure their QBOF. The hire has to be able to develop the talent.
 

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Hopefully we can find a smart young coach that could be here for an extended stay, which imo breeds success. We don’t need an old coach with old philosophy’s which is what we had in Arians, imo it’s time to go young even with the coaching staff and build something long term. One thing the great teams have is stability not changing coaches every few years.
All of that is easier said than done.
 

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You want them to hire Betcher as the head coach?
If he can get a "star studded staff" like has been reported, yes I think it would be as good a hire as some of the others but I also want to see the process play out. Patricia is intriguing.
 

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I just hope whoever the new coach is that he brings in top assistant coaches. There are some very good coaches that just got canned that would be very good coordinators.
 

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That's a good article on Patricia but come on you have to laugh when they quote a Pats player saying it's like he knew what was coming. Yeah almost like they were stealing signals and plays and had been doing it for years.

He's very intriguing because he does things in the modern computer age way. I just think I still suspect he's going to be the next Pats assistant that fails as a HC.

As for people saying don't hire a retread, the most successful coach in the history of the NFL is arguably Belichick, and he's a retread too, he failed his first time around in Cleveland.

I don't know who I want to be honest.
 

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I guess Gruden building Oakland up into a contender makes no never mind to you?
my concern over Gruden is I think the game may have passed him by... He made the Raiders a contender because he was the only one who could convince Al Davis to run a west coast offense.
That style could still work, Reid runs a version of it.... but the offense as a wgle he ran when he was coaching before isnt going to do well in todays NFL..... what one has to hope for is that he came up with lots of fresh ideas while he was in the booth and has actually wanted to come back to coaching.


it seams like Mark Davis is just making him an offer he cant refuse and IMO that could be a huge mistake for the team.

In a time when networks are cutting staff and salaries Davis is offering him top pay and part ownership of the team... Jimmy Johnson would come out of retirement for that..... hell, for a big enough piece of a 2 billion dollar franchise Vince Lombardy might show up for the job
 

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That's a good article on Patricia but come on you have to laugh when they quote a Pats player saying it's like he knew what was coming. Yeah almost like they were stealing signals and plays and had been doing it for years.

He's very intriguing because he does things in the modern computer age way. I just think I still suspect he's going to be the next Pats assistant that fails as a HC.

As for people saying don't hire a retread, the most successful coach in the history of the NFL is arguably Belichick, and he's a retread too, he failed his first time around in Cleveland.

I don't know who I want to be honest.
I have always thought Patricia was the heir apparent in NE and wont go anywhere unless its an insane offer.
 

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An Immodest Proposal -

That the FO create a "Council of Elders" to include Tom Moore, BA, the pass rush dude and other old timers from the current coaching staff.

Objective - Provide support and wisdom to younger assistant coaches & pass down team traditions, culture and continuity.

Another underrated benefit would be the credibility they'd bring to the teaching/coaching process.

I always felt that BA's bringing in old-timers was something cool that the Cardinals did that other teams didn't. Could be a special part of the team culture long-term.
 

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Patricia will have to avoid the pitfall that snapped up McDaniels...you have to build a New England type culture over time and through success, but you can't force it to happen. McDaniels tried to emulate New England's culture from day one, and got pushed out of town because he had not earned the ability to run an organization like that.
 

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The Tebow fiasco didn't help McDaniels either.
 
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